Man oh man do our big men suck. I remember thinking on draft night that maybe Rudy would pull off a big deal to get a premiere player instead he wasted our lottery pick for some stiff from Ga Tech who sounds alot like Bullard. Then he got another Matt Bullard in a trade when he could've had first round material in the second round. Man did the Rocks screw up in the draft. It's too bad that we let Cuttino Mobley dictate who we got at 9 when we could have gotten Coutney "I'm not white" Alexander. The only way to redeem themselves would be to make a deal for a very good PF or C, preferably Marcus Fizer. It seems feasable since Chicago is going to sign Tim Thomas creating a glut a F. Now there is no way they trade Brand and there is no way they trade a player they just signed because the couldn't anyway since it's against league rules. So that leaves Ron Artest at SF and Marcus at PF. They would be more likely to trade Fizer since it would be hard for him to adjust to SF anyway and easier for Artest to fit into the offense at SG. Soooo, I think Fizer is on the way out. Who better to fill his shoes than a young, athletic, potential-filled center who happened to have played for Tim Floyd at Iowa St. So, let's trade a Cyclone for a Cyclone. How about Cato and the trade exception to Chicago for Fizer. That gives us a rotation of C Dream/Collier PF Fizer/Thomas SF Williams/Langhi SG Anderson/If Mobley leaves then no clue PG Francis/Mooch/Drew Most likely if Mobley leaves then Francis moves to the 2 when Shandon goes out putting Mooch at the 1 then when Steve goes out Shandon comes back in and Steve only sits out for a short period. Basically, Shandon and Steve would be playing more minutes this year, probably something like 42 or 43 minutes a game rather than the 35 minutes a game the usually played. I noticed alot last year that Rudy would sit Steve out for about 9 minutes in the second quarter and about 4 or 5 in the 4th. That will come to a stop and Steve will sit out about 2 or 3 minutes instead. Same for Shandon. If Cat leaves then I think a trade like this needs to happen. Whether or not Chicago goes for it is up to Crumbs Krause and Satan Reinsdorf, but I would hope that Chicago would get something for Fizer rather than ruin his career by making him play out of position and having no center. BTW, I think the team gets better if Cat leaves. Call it a hunch, but I think it would allow Steve and Shandon to prosper more. ------------------
Kelvin Cato and Kenny Thomas vs. The Greek God 'Thepus' Collier and Fizer. hmmmm... In a word, hell no. Collier and Fizer would destroy the Rockets. Neither can rebound and Collier gets posted by 6'5" guards. I have to say though, poor Marcus Fizer. I guess, as rumors indicate, a Tim Thomas signature would mean that Jermaine O'Neal and Fizer are switching places. Talk about never having a chance at ROY. Never having a chance period. ------------------ The ClutchCity 500.
I don't understand, are you saying you don't want Fizer or do want Fizer? If you're saying you'd rather have Cato and Thomas than Fizer and Collier then I have to disagree because Thomas will never amount to anything more than a role player whil Fizer is a go-to guy. Cato doesn't impress me at all and besides we still have Dream for one more year and then we can pick a good center in the draft. Fizer would definitely be a better choice than the players we have now. Eduardo Najera made the Rockets his b**** tonight and will continue to if we don't get a real player in their to go head to head with him and trust me, Fizer played great against El Hoopo even though OU beat Iowa St. If most of the BBS thinks Eduardo sucks and he made our frontcourt his b**** then I guess we really suck. ------------------
NOW ya get it! Ataboy! P.S. -- our frontcourt wasn't there. Cato wasn't playing and neither was Walt (among others). But our frontcourt still doth suck. ------------------ Just shut up and post
Don't worry... the Rockets really suck. IMO, there's no way that Dream is capable of playing the whole year. I'll be amazed if he comes back... but if he does, he's good for dressing 55% of the games, and in those games he's capable of maybe a 9 point, 6 board, 1.5 block average, in 25 minutes. Collier is frightening, but only for Rockets' fans. Getting posted up by Eduardo is a joke. Isn't he supposed to stop players that are heavier 4s and 5s? Kelvin Cato is the Rockets only chance at a solvent C spot. Here's hoping that his workouts have continued past 06/28. p.s. T. Washington has alot of potential. ------------------ The ClutchCity 500.
Achebe-NBAtalk was reporting something about Portland not wanting just Fizer, and that they preferred Jamal Crawford, not wanting another PF. They also were ranting something about Portland demanding Crawford AND Fizer for Jermaine. Interesting. If those Portland "rumors" with Mobley are true, I wouldn't mind handcuffing them by saying "give us O'Neal, or you don't get Mobley" Then there's only 1 team we'd have to boo out of the building . ------------------ The more lefties on your team, the better. Collier is Seven Foot and Left Handed. How can you go wrong? Trade or bench Kenny Thomas.
I've said this about 5000 times, but you don't know anything about a player by reading some scouting reports. Just because someone is white, plays basketball, is close to 7 feet, and shoot from the outside doesn't mean he's a Matt Bullard clone. So until the season actually starts and you see these guys play, why not keep your mouth shut about them? ------------------ http://www.saveourcuttino.com
Don't worry The Cat... he's no Matt Bullard clone. Collier cannot play defense nor can he shoot open 3s. ------------------ The ClutchCity 500. [This message has been edited by Achebe (edited July 23, 2000).]
OH NO!!! Not our fearsome Revue frontcourt!! I think it'll be a little different in the real games, when we are at full strength and guys like Collier are in basketball shape. And by the way guys, did you ever consider the fact that Collier was hurt this week by a bad back and sat out of some practices? And I doubt that he was 100% by last night. ------------------ http://www.saveourcuttino.com
Sorry, don't think you can tell everything about a player after one game in which he wasn't even 100%. There are guys like MManal and rocketsfan34 that watched this guy his entire college career and love his game, and no offense but their opinions after watching him all those times are a little more valid than yours. ------------------ http://www.saveourcuttino.com
Cat- There is a huge difference between looking good in the NBA & in college. No offense to you but just because a guy looks good in college does not may him a good NBA player. Bring back Pryz! Yeah he's also unproven but he will be a better pro than Collier. ------------------
The Cat: I'm sure you're right Mary Poppins, I'm just having fun with a horrible game last night. I actually think Dan Langhi will be awesome. I hope you're right about Collier's not being 100%, because trust me... he sucked. ------------------ The ClutchCity 500. [This message has been edited by Achebe (edited July 23, 2000).]
4chuckie, I know what you mean. But I wasn't talking about people saying he'll be a good pro or not. I was talking about people saying he was slow, couldn't play defense, couldn't shoot 3's, just overall skills. And those people who have watched him a lot, even in college, know more about the guys overall game and skills than those who saw him in 1 game where he wasn't 100%, you know what I mean? Even if a guy is in college, you can get a handle on the guys speed, shooting, etc. It's not like he gets magically slower or faster or can shoot better or worse once in the NBA. ------------------ http://www.saveourcuttino.com
Achebe- he was out of practice I read either Wednesday or Thursday with a bad back, and based on your observations and since bad backs usually take more than a day to heal I doubt he was back 100%. The Rockets aren't that dumb. They said he really surprised them with his athletic ability and could shoot all the way to 3 pt. range. If he could do it in the workout, he can do it in a game. Just don't base him on one performance. ------------------ http://www.saveourcuttino.com
This whole thread is ridiculous. It was started by a guy who predicted the Rockets would win 66 games last year. "Man did the Rocks screw up in the draft. It's too bad that we let Cuttino Mobley dictate who we got at 9 when we could have gotten Coutney "I'm not white" Alexander. Setting aside the racial slur just for a second, can you provide proof that Mobley dictated who we drafted? This comment totally discredited your entire post, and future posts as well (that is unless the 66-16 prediction didn't do it first). ------------------ A little bit better than I used to be
Posters who continually label and rate players by their skin color never will have any credibility. ------------------ [This message has been edited by grummett (edited July 23, 2000).]
Hey, I'm a white guy and I have the balls to admit that I would rather have a black guy than a white guy on my team. So sue me. They're more athletic in most cases and can leap higher. Now seriously, you would rather have Collier than Alexander. Gimme a break! Have you not been reading the BBS for the past 3 months? Everyone knows that if the Rockets drafted Alexander then Cuttino was gone. Now it turns out it still isn't good enough for him and he wants to go play with "Half Man Half Amazing" for a few more peanuts that would be taken away by taxes anyway. And also, I made the 66 win prediction before ******* went to Portland. Wow I guess things haven't changed at all since then. God, what a weak take! Your basing your whole post on me predicting 66 wins last year before we traded Pip. And once again I am the center of controversy. Well bring it on because I ready to fire some shots. ------------------
It is still a racial slur regardless whether you are white or not. I would prefer to have the player that fit my needs regardless of his skin tone. Larry Bird was white and I would take him over any black guy that ever played the game, included the evil one(MJ). The stereotypical comments of "blacks are more athletic and can leap higher" are disgusting. I ,being a white person myself, are offended by your racist statements because it is people like you who keep racism alive. ------------------ Houston Rockets Forever!! In Rudy We Trust
Well, now, I guess this thread has pretty much gone to hell in a handbasket. ------------------ Just shut up and post
