Have any of you guys actually thought about if we trade for Theo without giving up mobes? Our nucleus would have Francis, Mobes, Anderson, Rogers, Theo, Cato, and a SF draftee. Since we really have quite a few picks and a high draft position, we can trade up to get a top SF like Porter, Morris. Damn and they talk about Portland being so talented. We literally can have a dynasty in a few years.
Have any of you guys actually thought about if we trade for Theo without giving up mobes? No. I doubt the Sixers have either.
Rudy and CD have the chance, its very crucial now not to make any mistakes. Making a wrong trade can mean the difference of a dynasty and a playoff one. The most recent example is the Lakers. They were too impatient and they gave away eddie. Now look what happened. At least Phil is making them a better team.
rocketsfan34: Whoa there brother, let's not get too carried away. Let's remember that that Walt+Drew+Mack for Ratliff was mainly just speculation on Popeye's part. I like your thinking, but let's keep in mind that finances are a big issue in the present-day NBA. I too have been guilty of trying to set up "dream lineups" but it's hard to project what kind of success they will have. $$: Francis: $9mill Mobley: somewhere from $5-8mill Cato: $7mill Ratliff: $7mill Anderson: somewhere from $5-8mill Porter/Morris: $8-9mill And that is just the first 6 guys...you have 6 more to worry about after that. It's fun to speculate what could be with so and so lineup, but we would have to trade some of the higher guys off somewhere down the road for cheaper guys. It's sad that the NBA has become a game of dollars and cents.
Isn't Ratliff injured at the moment? I know he was as of just over a week ago. All I want to know is whether Othella is untouchable with the Grizzlies. ------------------ There is no offense without a good defense.
We are rebuilding now, so I wouldn't mind to have young and upcoming young players, just stock them up for the future. Guys like Tim Thomas and Brad Miller are all considerable, they are not stars but are doing well. Brad Miller is a young 6-11, 250 pounds center of the Hornets, has nice all around stats. His shooting is so so currently at 46%, but he had a record of fg accuracy before. Definitely a good project. Cato should be able to play the pf spot if we get him.
man rocketsfan, don't know how to help you out. how many dynasties have there been in the last 20 years. even with Sampson and Hakeem at age 22 after our first 50 win season when all the dynasty talk began, it took 5 years to hit 50 wins again..and that was w/o the core twin towers that started all the dynasty talk to begin with. man...we have to respect the word dynasty a little more. i think we have to respect the game a little more too. until we can produce 48 minutes of focused effort from every position, we are going to lose a lot in this league. Even then, our talent may not be enough to ever advance to the final four. Cato/Anderson aren't showing any consistency, and our defense simply sucks for how much youth we have. Give me focused effort...I am not going to ask for a dynasty...I'll ask for that after we win another championship. one step at a time.
HeyPartner, The reason for the lack of dynasty of a young Hakeem and Ralph was quite simply...the BOOGER SUGAR !!! We lost Lew Lloyd, Mitchell Wiggens and John Lucas all within a year to the white lines. Take away your top 3 guards on any team and you have a hard time winning. That team could have been phenominal. Did you guys know that the NBA called all 3 into the office, and told them that they had evidence that they were using Coke. The NBA asked them to admit it, and they would go into a 30 day rehab, but be elligable to play later that year. If they denied it, and the Drug test came back positive they would be suspended for 2 years...MINIMUM. All 3 said they did not do it...HOW STUPID CAN YOU BE? DaDakota - It still hurts..sweet Lew was great on the break.
Dynasty? The only thing the Rocks are on the verge of is a losing season. Unless we win the lottery, we can't depend on the draft to significantly change our team. Getting Ratliff would help win some games, but it wouldn't build a dynasty. Think about it - 2 pf/c post players who have trouble scoring, get in foul trouble, and tend to dissappear. You want a dynasty? Ask Nugzfan for Mcdyess.
DD,Man that was a crippling blow.Sweet Lou was such a good finisher and he had that soft,feathery jumpshot........great body control Lucas was so good.....from Maryland on...what a waste Mitch had that in your face defense....These guys could ball...too bad they couldn't stay off the bula.
Crisco I was referring to if we get Theo and somehow trade up to nab Morris/Porter, we would have one great nucleus maybe good enough to become a dynasty. A draftee can obviously change a team. Look what Vince has done to the Raptors, how about Garnett to the Wolves, not to mention Odom to the Clips. There are usually 5 great players in each draft... cabbage Those 6 are all the players we need to worry about. The other 6 probably be bench warmers anyways. Ham, veteren PG and Rogers would all get about the minimum. We will be way over the cap like the blazers but I'm sure CD won't mind after seeing him give maloney and price their contracts. He would actually get his money's worth this time. hey partner A couple dynasties...Celtics, Lakers, Pistons, Bulls, Utah, Rockets, ...all i can think off the top of my head right now.
DD, i didn't need that before going to bed--hehe. you know lewis shot 53% as a Rocket. this is why I can't bring myself to use the word dynasty again until after one ring at least.
Rocketsfan...now I see why you throw out that term,,, how can you count a team with no rings. also, most people place sustained 60+ game seasons on dynasties. i count 3 in the last 20 years, and say that's a lot for this sport.
all im saying is that a lot of teams look good on paper. A lot of fans could claim their team to be the next great dynasty. Its ludicrous right now for us to realistically claim that we are going to be that right now. It is way to early to determine that. We have the potential, just as every other single team in the NBA does, and that's not saying much. IF all our players step up and play much better individually and as a whole ... IF we get Theo Ratliff or some other badass PF on our team, and he produces ... IF we get a high draft pick who WON'T be a bust ... then maybe, just maybe we can get a few rings and be worthy enuff to be called a dynasty, but man, that is a whole lot of caca that has to go down in the Rox favor in order for that to happen. ------------------ now -WE- are the underdogs
Heypartner: I believe a dynasty as some team that dominated over a period of time. Although Utah never won any rings, you have to admit they dominated everyone with their annoyin pick and rolls. Every team knew what they were going to do, but they used that offense to perfection. Well I guess with your defintion of dynasty then there are only 3.
Crisco: Whole point of the thread. If all those "ifs" do happen, we could become a dynasty. Even though it seems far-fetched.
