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Warning to UT students

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Kim, Feb 16, 2001.

  1. Kim

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    Next week, your Justice for All organization is sponsering a touring exhibition about the inhumanity of abortion. It's been here for the week at A&M. Now the guy who's running the exhibit is a real cool and nice guy. He spoke at the church I attend. Now the warning is that this thing is freakin graphic, and I mean graphic. Now this is A&M, but there was still some verbal fracas early on in the week. There are like 12' pictures of aborted fetuses.

    It's supposed to create debate and bring the abortion issue to the forfront, and it has done a good job of that here. But, that is here, and here is definitely not Austin. I'm predicting a lot of conflict, screaming, hopefully no violence. So if you want to avoid that, stay clear of the UGL area next week or where ever the set up is going to be, that is if you want to avoid it.

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  2. Turbo

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    Just another day in the life of a Longhorn. But seriously, there always seems to be at least one person/group a month trying to stir up controversy here. I'm sure this issue will generate emotions, but I doubt violence will occur. IMO, if you have an issue on anything - not just abortion - just stick to it and not try to generate hostilities trying to convince others, who clearly disagree with you. Oh well, Austin life continues.

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  3. Frank Black

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    I can attest to the graphic nature of the pictured fetuses that have manifested throughout campus here at A&M. I was definitely caught offgurad & questioned whether this was necessary. Surely there could be a more subtle way to spark a debate.

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  4. Baqui99

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    Doesn't surprise me at all. People in Austin protest about every damn thing. Last year they were being all stupid cause UT Athletics signed a deal with Nike. They always protest the death penalty and the tree huggers are damn annoying. These people need to get over it and stay the hell off the West Mall.

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    I'm not sure why you're at UT. If they annoy you so much, maybe -you- should "stay the hell off the West Mall."

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  6. Jeff

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    Well, if it is any comfort, Baqui99, we "tree huggers" find you annoying as well. [​IMG]

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  7. BrianKagy

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    Hey, if the protestors bother you, transfer to Texas A&M. You won't have to worry about dissenting opinions at all anymore, except for those darned two-percenters.

    You will have to worry about walking on the grass, though.

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  8. Baqui99

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    Don't get me wrong, I care about the environment just as much as the next person. I voted for Gore, unlike most in Texas. I'm just not about to chain myself to a tree to prove a point. I love the diversity at UT. I don't have a problem with a difference of opinion. But why do they have to raise hell and break out the signs all the time. It gets old, and to be perfectly honest, it loses its effectiveness.

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    They raise hell because they care. The death penalty is a serious issue, and so is the University's involvement with a company that profits from near-slavery. Even if its something I disagree with, I'm still glad that they care enough about an issue to raise hell.


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    12 feet??? OMG...

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    Justice for All's exhibition is set up in front of Gregory Gym.

    A UT Police officer is standing guard to make sure that there is no trouble.

    There would be no trouble if the exhibit was put inside a tent. A sign warning of genocide pictures ahead isn't enough.

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    Ain't America grand...

    College campuses around the country are a haven for protests. It has a little bit to do with the fact that there are a ton of students looking to make their mark in the world. I am somewhat liberal but I am often put off by the self righteous behavior of some of these protesters. But nothing is worse, in my mind, then religous activists parading 12' pictures of aborted fetuses around the grounds of the universities which are paid for by the money that gets stripped from paycheck every week. The only debate they are trying to initiate is "how can we shame young people into turning to God."

    I cannot continue this post... Too frustrating.

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    Those pictures are digusting. I don't think I have a right to tell a female what to do with her body, but from the sheer shock value of the pictures I feel that being pro-choice means I am sanctioning these acts. That simply is not true.

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  15. Baqui99

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    Alright ya'll. I saw these ridiculous billboards in front of Gregory this afternoon. It was the most disgusting and offensive thing that I have ever seen in my life. These pictures were about 30 feet tall and they made like a circle of them right in front of Gregory where everyone passes by. I sat and listened to some people debate then I was just disgusted and left. Seriously, guys, these were some of the most grotesque pictures I have ever seen and no way should they be displayed on campus at the best, classiest institution in the State of Texas.

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  16. Smokey

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    The most graphic picture was censored by UT.

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    David Lee, director of Justice for All, argues about abortion with a mixed group of pro-life and pro-choice students outside of Gregory Gym Monday.

    Tactics of abortion protest questioned
    Large, graphic photos displayed on Speedway


    By Cari Hammerstrom
    Daily Texan Staff

    A crowd of abortion supporters and protesters gathered near Gregory Gym around a guarded island of 18-foot photos of aborted fetuses presented by a anti-abortion student group Monday.

    Justice For All: Students for Bio-Ethical Justice sponsored the demonstration with the help of the national organization Justice For All, based in Wichita, Kansas. The national organization travels from campus to campus spreading a anti-abortion message.

    Although both the student and the national organizations share the same cause and the same name, they are not affiliated with each other, members said, though they came together to educate students about abortion and to change a few minds. Ten members of the local organization were present at the protest, along with seven members of the national group.

    "People who try to change legislation without changing public opinion are paddling upstream without a paddle," said David Lee, director of the national JFA. "We are just showing the problems that already exist."

    The exhibit equated abortion with the mass murder and oppression of African Americans, Jews, Cambodians and Native Americans, placing the images of aborted fetuses in different stages of development adjacent to pictures of concentration camps.

    Many students felt the gory, detailed pictures unnecessarily agitated passers-by at the otherwise peaceful demonstration. Several said they felt the pictures were too sensationalized.

    "I don't think that this is furthering their cause or changing anybody's mind," said Lindsey Moore, an English junior. "This is just a spectacle."

    Signs that read "Warning ... Genocide photos ahead" were originally placed by JFA members on the sidewalks along Speedway in front of Gregory Gym alerting people to the disturbing photographs. But by the end of the day, the Office of the Dean of Students ordered that the warning signs be relocated because they were blocking pedestrian traffic.

    Although the UT JFA used the event to recruit supporters for their cause, protesters outnumbered visible supporters. But the battle to hold this demonstration began more than two months ago.

    Earlier this semester, the organizations were twice denied permission to congregate on the South Mall and they twice appealed, before talking to UT President Larry Faulkner. With the intervention of lawyers, Faulkner and president of the UT JFA, Jeremy Adler, agreed to hold the demonstration near Gregory Gym instead.



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  17. RichRocket

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    It doesn't take a Christian to refuse to have or support abotion. Those "little pieces of meat" are WITHOUT DOUBT human beings and if given time, nourishment, and protection will be a wonderment born.

    Who in the hell speaks for them but mostly the brave Christians!

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  18. Cohen

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    Rich,

    I am not challenging your statement, but I am curious, where do you draw the line? Sperm, egg, fertilized-egg?



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  19. Kim

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    I think most pro lifers say the line is drawn at the time of conception. I'm not going to get in a debate over this though. I did warn y'all.

    I do wonder when it's going to settle down there in Austin, cause it only was rowdy like the first day here at A&M, but this is A&M.

    I find it funny that people are so pissed though. I mean, those pictures are graphic, but it's not like they're fake. Distasteful, yes; offensive, probably just as much as people who scream back, "you have no right to tell me!" I think it's actually a good thing that people have the guts to speak about what they believe. I think the conflict arising between the crazy display people and the crazy protesters creates open discussion and allows people to find out more about themselves within.

    That David Lee guy is a nice guy though. It's not like he's forcing people to agree with him. He's got like 12 kids too.

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  20. RichRocket

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    Cohen-- definitely after someone "discovers" that they are pregnant is too late. The rest of that argument is just lame quibbling on the part of pro-abotionists to desperately try and put their actions beyond criticism.

    Abortion has been made convenient and the holocause was a convenient solution of the Jewish problem for the Nazis. Good but ugly analogy.

    Certainly an egg must be fertilized by a sperm to create a human being, so that moment works fine for me.

    Since most abortionists are not intervening at just that moment, why not put that stupid argument aside.

    In JUST THE SAME WAY that a 3-year old is not an adult, a 14 week-old fetus is neither a 3 year old nor an adult. That beautiful creature is DEVELOPING into nothing else but a human being.

    She is a human child. What more need be said?
    Let her live. Whoever created her owes her that much at least.

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