War support 40%; Bush spins; Proof intent to "fix" intel. UK Atty Gen Q War Legality

Four-star General Tommy Franks (Commander-in-Chief United States Central Command, ret.) disagrees with you.

 

Of course he would. It's his @$$ on the line

 

This unbelievable. Ever since the war in Iraq we were being told that Bush didn't lie, that he like most other folks were just mistaken about WMD's and the like.

Now a memo comes out that shows that Bush wanted intel fixed around his desire for war, and almost nobody comments on it. This shows that George W. "Christ is my role model" Bush wanted to start a war, fixed the intel around his desire rather than believing war was needed because of the intel.

I am offended as an American with this war monger as president. I'm offended as a Christian at the way he uses his faith for his benefit, and behaves so contrary to his stated faith.

For those who want to claim that Bush was not lying or intentionally misleading anyone, the argument is over, and you have lost.

All the time Bush was saying that it wasn't definite that we would go to war, or that Saddam could still come clean, etc. all goes down the drain. It was a big lie. The question is now, how will Bush supporters respond, now that is shown they were lied to.

 

And last week the liberals were accused of not responding in the Darfur thread. It is curious we have no conservatives responding here.

I'm sure the response will be, oh its just those damn Europeans so we can't trust some leaked document from them. We hate Europe anyway. So screw'em. It doesn't mean anything.

I find it curious W's continued support despite mounting evidence he highly manipulated public opinion. The guy is a crook.

 

They'll say "but we freed millions from the tyrannical rule of a murderous regime, why are you bashing the troops, you lunatic liberal?"

 

Actually the term these days is "freedom hater"

 

Let them say it. I know the feeling about spreading democracy. I want to know their feelings about being lied to, and falling for that lie for so long. I won't discuss anything else in this thread. Hopefully nobody else will either.

 

Sadly nothing will come of this article.

W won the election, the repubs have majority in the house and senate, and the American people are too lazy to care.

Lets move on Libs...

 

I agree nothing will come of this. But aren't you curious? You, like many of us believed long ago that we were lied to, and we were outraged. Apparently others didn't believe they were lied to, but now it is revealed that they were lied to. Even if nothing comes of it, don't you wonder about how Bush supporters will feel about being lied to by the very man they supported in arguments against us for more than a year?

 

They'll respond by saying how the british probably made it up (I mean they're only one of the few countries that have stuck with bush since the beginning).
But I get the feeling it will be treated as a non issue, you won't hear of it on Faux news or from any other right wing mouthpiece, unless it's to try and discredit the source.
I can see it already. Bush didn't lie, it was those around him who fed him bad info. Yeah, Bush was only following their orders right?

 

bleh, i've never liked populism, even if it goes with what I agree with. Sadly, if i had the power of the president, I would do the same things to achieve what I wanted, because in this country its so damn easy.

and also because I had a man date

 

you wacky liberals and your nonsensical fantasies. iraq is about the war on terrorism and 9/11 and freedom and toby keith. there was no intent to fix intel. we invaded iraq in response to 9/11. iraq had WMD's (we just havent found them) and they were going to use them on us first chance they got.

its not like bush wanted to invade iraq all along and only used 9/11 as an excuse to do so. come on "freedom haters"!

geesh people, its not like key members of the bush administration such as cheney, rumsfeld, wolfowitz and even the presidents brother, jeb were pushing for a war with iraq as far back as 1998. oh wait, yes it is.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

 

Hey didn't we put all this to a referendum?


W stands for Winner.

 

i don't know what to say. i BELIEVED the intel was there. i BELIEVED saddam had failed in making an accounting of WMDs to the UN, as he was supposed to do. i thought that if there was bad intell, it preceded Clinton because he was in there saying the same things. i still think saddam failed to live up to his obligations. but i'm very troubled by the idea that we would be making crap up to go to war.

 

nah-ah

i saw a bumper sticker that said W stands for women.

my personal favorite is the one that says W...the president. that bumper sticker is a real straight shooter. direct and to the point.

 

A leaked British memo is enough to convince the liberals that they were right. What a joke. This memo proves nothing. You guys just want to beat your chests and proclaim that you were right all along, accepting any kind of third rate source as your memo.

Nobody is listening to you.

 

Ah, yes. The patented D&D callout. It just never gets old.

It's going to be a long offseason...

 

see what I mean FranchiseBlade?

 

Same could be said wrt to SS and GWB.

The memo proves nothings. But it is newsworthy and should lead journalists to investigate its origins.