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[WaPo] Trump moves to wrest control of USAID as Musk says, ‘We’re shutting it down’

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    Ugly, mask-off moment for you.
     
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    Hold on, do you think transgender operas have a place in society? Sorry, I'm out. Decades from now, we'll look back on this movement as being peak insanity.

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    anybody watching self hating blacks for ideological validation is an ignore from me.
     
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    self-hating blacks
     
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    All the information about all of our people .. . is being fed into an AI or worse our enemies
    Information is the currency of the 21st century
    and we just made Elon more wealthy in that . . .than anyone in history

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    Transgender people deserve the right to perform opera in front of women and their insanely bored husbands just as much as anyone else.
     
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    USAID could be leaking nuclear secrets to China (it's not, as it doesn't have nuclear secrets, but hopefully, you get the point), and that still wouldn't be a valid excuse to allow an unelected foreign-born billionaire to shut it down.

    Republicans control the Executive Branch, both chambers of Congress, and the Supreme Court. If USAID is so horrible, they can easily introduce a bill, debate it, pass it, and sign it into law within days or even hours. That's how our Constitution works. But instead of doing that, they are handing this congressional power over to an unelected foreign-born billionaire.
     
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    Thank God the filibuster still exists...
     
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    Republican Senators can also easily get rid of the filibuster. It's within their constitutional power to do so.

    The point here is that our constitutional system of government is currently being replaced by a single person - the foreign-born billionaire - who gets to cancel whatever programs he dislikes.
     
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    Thank God the 2nd amendment still exists...
     
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    USAID was not created by congress. It was created with the stroke of a pen (by JFK) . Of course it can be altered/fixed/demolished by the stroke of a pen.
     
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    Debs create another account ?
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Assistance_Act

    The Foreign Assistance Act (Pub. L. 87–195, 75 Stat. 424-2, enacted September 4, 1961, 22 U.S.C. § 2151 et seq.) is a United States law governing foreign aid policy.[1] It outlined the political and ideological principles of U.S. foreign aid, significantly overhauled and reorganized the structure of U.S. foreign assistance programs, and legally distinguished military from nonmilitary aid. Following its enactment by Congress on September 4, 1961, President John F. Kennedy signed the Act into law on November 3, 1961, issuing Executive Order 10973 detailing the reorganization.[2]
     
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    All the cuts he's doing are to key programs while he taxes the rich while you and i have to pay more.

    Im sorry but you believe in a conspiracy theory. Covid was not manufactured, no one would willingly choose to unleash a pandemic on the world.
     
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    do they serve bud light at these operas?
    What if you need to go to the bathroom do they have 30 for each gender ?
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    You dont know how much money went where. I can give you the data if you dont believe me, otherwise you dont have evidence.

    And Ron Paul is actually insane.
     
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    This is not contradicting what i said. You will find no mention of USAID in that Act or any such program.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Agency_for_International_Development

    Congress passed the Foreign Assistance Act on September 4, 1961, which reorganized U.S. foreign assistance programs and mandated the creation of an agency to administer economic aid. USAID was subsequently established by the executive order of President John F. Kennedy, who sought to unite several existing foreign assistance organizations and programs under one agency.[8]
     
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    Rubio unveils plan to review and potentially abolish USAID
    The secretary of state accused USAID, which oversees food assistance, emergency relief and health programs in more than 100 countries, of being out of step with U.S. interests.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/02/03/usaid-rubio-trump-musk/

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    SAN SALVADOR — Secretary of State Marco Rubio unveiled plans Monday to restructure and potentially abolish the U.S. Agency for International Development, moving swiftly against a department that has emerged as a chief target in President Donald Trump’s drive to reshape the federal government and refocus spending at home.

    In a letter to senior lawmakers from both parties, Rubio cited USAID activities he described as “conflicting, overlapping, and duplicative” with the State Department and noted what he said were “systems and processes [that] … often result in discord in the foreign policy and foreign relations of the United States.”

    “In consultation with Congress, USAID may move, reorganize, and integrate certain missions, bureaus, and offices into the Department of State, and the remainder of the Agency may be abolished consistent with applicable law,” Rubio said.

    At the same time, the chief diplomat assumed more direct control of USAID, taking on the role of acting administrator and naming a Trump loyalist, Peter W. Marocco, to oversee an agency review and potential cuts. But Rubio stopped short of confirming that USAID — as has been widely rumored among aid officials in recent days — will be collapsed into the State Department.

    Rubio’s report to Congress marks the first official notice of the drive by Trump and billionaire Elon Musk, who is leading a pseudo-governmental initiative to remake the federal government, to review and potentially restructure or dismantle the beleaguered humanitarian assistance body.

    Musk has promised in social media posts to destroy USAID, calling it a “criminal organization.”

    “Time for it to die,” he said.

    Foreign aid represents approximately 1 percent of the federal budget.

    Rubio, speaking earlier in the day to reporters on his first trip abroad as secretary of state, accused the agency, which has a staff of more than 10,000 and oversees food aid, emergency relief, health programs and other projects in more than 100 countries, of “insubordination” and acting against American interests.

    “In many cases, USAID is involved in programs that run counter to what we’re trying to do in our national strategy with that country or with that region,” Rubio told reporters in the Salvadoran capital. “That cannot continue.”

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    Rubio, who has a history of supporting foreign aid programs, declined Monday to echo Musk’s description of the organization, telling reporters that “there are a lot of functions of USAID that are going to continue … but it has to be aligned with American foreign policy.”
    good reporting from the Washington Post: "pseudo-governmental initiative." nice.

    more at the link

     
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