http://bbs.clutchfans.net/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=6991 It's a simple, the answer is 288. But there are too many people that are stuck in their own ideology and refuse to listen to the other side even when it's obvious the other side is right :grin:
It is 2!!! Crazy Right. Crazy Left. That which is not near the parenthesis is actually not looked at until the end, those are the folks that are neither on the left or right. So forget working from left to right. That is why you get 2. You get it?
So what are you trying to say? Huge tax cuts don't pay for themselves, wealth from the rich won't trickle down to me and America doesn't have the best healthcare system in the world? Sorry, but theres no way what I believed for most of my life can be wrong, despite what all the empirical data says.
Actually it's M and D and not M before D (I think you meant PEMDA) and proofs were all over the replies if people took time to look. http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=6061238&postcount=319 http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=6061268&postcount=327 http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=6060786&postcount=229 http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showpost.php?p=6062288&postcount=459 My point is that as long as there's sufficient amount of people believing that certain statements are facts, plenty of people will feel ok to believe those statements are facts despite what the real truth is. Ideologies, once formed, are so hard to change even when presented with cold hard facts. Creationism vs. Darwinism as the most basic example, one side will think it's ridiculous that there is a debate and the other side will think it's close minded to not have one.
Except math is always based on facts and politics is most often based on opinions. Math can be proven, despite someone being taught how to do it incorrectly and their refusal to learn the correct way. You can't prove whether abortion or gay rights or gun laws are right.
No, but it is easily proven that tax cuts reduce government revenue, and there are still a LOT of people who say that tax cuts will (eventually) raise revenue. They don't give a flip that correlation <> causation because they have a belief.
No, I don't. It's easier to screw everybody while their divided over bull**** that doesn't even matter.
In economics it is hard to definitively prove anything. This is because the world is a complicated place with lots of variables.
No its not. Yes there are variables and yes its a science but this type of no-nothing attitude is why dimwits like Michelle Bachman are allowed a forum to talk about fiscal policy. She plays to people who think that economics is some sort of basic logic exercise rather than a science and that everything is indeterminate so experts aren't important. That's not to say we know everything but there is a solid foundation as to how the economy works and the notion of the laffer curve and supply side economics generating revenue has never proven to be true. So no I can say with a good amount of certainty that tax cuts dont raise revenue. The absurd anti-intellectualism when it comes to economics is ridiculous right now. It really has to stop
The classic DaDakota "last line of defense": Well, even if I'm wrong to claim euro/duke/white player x is like a rocket fueled Larry Bird-Cheetah hybrid and all the evidence I marshaled thereof has been shown to be either incorrect or fabricated, it's just an opinion and impossible to know one way or the other.
