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Wall Street Journal - The Myth of Systematic Racism

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Senator, Jul 6, 2020.

  1. Senator

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    "surrender to facts" - LOL
     
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    You missed a word in the title. You should edit it to read "systemic police racism". Your title implies ALL systemic racism is a myth (according to the article)
     
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    America is systemically anti racist... which is why we have made progress.
     
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    http://archive.is/RmiF2

    Got you bro.
     
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    I would like to say there are some key parts people are missing in this argument and this writing nicely points them out. I have marked them above with bold and underline.
     
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    I also can’t read it in the original link, but here is a pretty thorough dissection of the piece that appears to quote from the entire article and responds, point by point:

     
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    there was no problem with it... except that it offends the religious sensibilities of the far left racial grifters.
     
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    Also, I believe the article only tries to address racial bias against Black people when it comes to people shot by police (a relatively rare event). It would be disingenuous to extrapolate from this limited focus that “systemic police racism” is a myth, let alone “systemic racism” in general doesn’t exist.
     
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    Systemic racism is a myth designed to convince black people to remain in a victim state. They have great paths ahead of them if they don't fall victim to such lies. People want to pretend like the system hasn't adjusted and allowed for great progress to take place. They want to ignore the blood shed for the sins of slavery and they want to ignore the Civil Rights movement. They want to focus on specific atrocities that fit a victim narrative without admitting that America, the greatest country on the earth, has the finest ideological underpinnings that are ANTI RACIST to their core and have allowed us to reach new heights. We must all move past a racial lens and be brothers together if we want to move forward and realize MLK's dream.

    Btw I think we should add him to Mt. Rushmore. He is America's founding father who came late to the party. Anyone else agree?

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    In general, would you rather society treat you like you are:

    A - White
    B - Black
    C - It doesn't matter because both are treated the same
     
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    C. As long as both are Americans I'm good with it bro. I don't care about hyphenated identities. I care about American identity and our commonalities. And I think most people want to work toward MLK's dream. Not that of the racial hate groups. You and me, and others, gotta move forward as brothers no matter our skin color. We need to unite as Americans. That's when we will see real change for the good of our fellow citizens.
     
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    Ignoring or dismissing the systemic pressures, built up from long history of oppression against Black people and sustained by present-day discrimination, that drive racial inequality in wealth and criminal justice is not the way to move forward and realize MLK’s dream.
     
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    Actually no one is ignoring that some people are unequal in wealth and justice, but to boil it all down to race is a gross simplification and a divisive one at that. The problem is you can't label a system that has proven to be anti-racist through its track record and success. The label "systemic" is what I take contention with because it's highly inaccurate. And I think judging people by their quality and not skin color has largely been met. And that it will be impossible to eliminate all racism from the world, but we have done a great job moving forward and making progress. But if people keep pushing false narratives, it will only serve to divide us and undo what MLK fought for.
     
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    I agree that there isn't systematic racism in terms of police. Some of the high profile incidents caught on camera are bad like George Floyd and some aren't like Eric Garner who died of asthma

    Unfortunately a lot of black men are involved in crime and therefore meet police in stressful situations. That being said the numbers still show police have killed whites twice as more. I know that rate doesn't represent population demographics but you have to take into crime demographics

    Lastly police shootings are very rare considering how many incidents police respond to. Black people one day will have to spend the same energy on our internal problems
     
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    why can't u have both? i'm brown, not black, and i'm scared of the cops
     
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    Im black and I'm not scared of cops. I've been pulled over probably ten times and have never felt threatened
     
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    At the area in Minneapolis that has been turned in to the George Floyd memorial there is list of names but down by BLM on the street of people who have been killed by LE under questionable circumstances in recent years. It stretches almost a full city block. On that list is Justine Damond. A white woman who happened to be killed by a black LEO. That is the only name so far that has a conviction of the LEO to it. That should tell you why many feel there is issues of systemic racism and inequity in the LE and the justice system.
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