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WAFER ROTATION PLAYER

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by binvegas, Oct 18, 2008.

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  1. binvegas

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    Was discussing with a friend the other day and we were like would it be bad to start Wafer as the first two guard off the bench then if he starts messing up bring in old reliable Brent and put Wafer on the bench. Everybody talking about him making the team lets be real if he keeps playing like this he deserves to be the second guard after Brooks to come off the bench. Brent good save his legs and be ready for the playoffs. What do you guys think.
     
  2. clos4life

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    I think I'm blinded by the caps in your title. It's like a huge billboard sign, I just can't think of anything else. It's like a mental scream in my head that I can't stop. Huge.
     
  3. durvasa

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    Barry is a far better player, and I'd much rather have him off the bench than Wafer.

    But if there's a need to save Barry's legs, I guess Wafer could be an alternative. He shouldn't be ahead of Barry in the rotation, though.
     
  4. cdastros

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    Did you not see Brent Barry coaching the 2nd unit on how to run R. Adelmans offense. Barry on offense is essential the Rockets second point guard behind Rafer and Brooks is playing the 2. On defense Barry will defend 3's and Brooks defends 1's. There are no minutes available for Wafer until the Rockets have injury's. The chance of the Rockets having injury's is very high, so he will get his chance if he makes the team.
     
  5. A_3PO

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    Let's not get carried away. Wafer has been in the NBA for 3 seasons as an absolute zero. This will be his 4th. All he's done is exceed very low expectations during the pre-season. Give him a roster spot instead of Mike Harris and let's see what happens. But there ain't no way Wafer should be in the rotation to start the season. Barry is much better for us.
     
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    A team hopper has 3 good games in a row in the PRE season and you think he's good enough to take a 13 year vets spot? 3 preseason games> 13 proven years.
     
  7. durvasa

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    I don't even think he's played that much better than Barry. All he's done well is shoot the spot up three.

    Barry has played hard and smart on defense, he's run the offense beautifully, and he's handled the ball and created shots for teammates. He's brought stability to the offense for the second unit. And we all know that over the course of the season he'll be at least 40% from 3-point range. Age is a factor, I agree, but it's no-brainer on who'll help the team more.
     
  8. pacmania

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    Last year the rockets were in a shooting slump to start the season, and every player has his off night... so it is useful to have a versatile player like Wafer so the coach has another option in case there is another shooting slump affecting one, some or all of the players. Plus , his slashing skills are pretty impressive. He was able to catch Kevin Garnett off guard with his speed and dunked it before Garnett could react. It is very hard to dunk on KG considering he works hard on every play as rafer learned on his breakaway layup. Lets not overrate him but at this stage Wafer is very underrated player and would be an asset on this team, just too much versatility to let him go.
     
  9. A_3PO

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    Brent Barry has really found his comfort zone with the Rockets. It took him 2 years to get comfortable on the Spurs. Everything about him (except 3-point shooting) has clicked with this team.
     
  10. Yetti

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    YOU MUST HAVE A LOT OF TIME ON YOUR HANDS!!!!!!!! :p
     
  11. Yetti

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    I think although Wafer is rather raw, he has so much talent that he should be the first back up of the starting Shooting Guard.
    Berry is just a 10 mins a game role player at this stage of his career. :p
     
  12. A_3PO

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    If Wafer is so talented, why has he played a total of 228 minutes in 46 games and scored grand total of 66 points in 3 seasons? Not to mention his stellar 23% shooting percentage, 14% from 3-point range.

    The Wafer hyperbole has now reached the insane level.
     
  13. Easy

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    Folks, this is PRESEASON.

    I am excited about Wafer's shooting too. But let's be real.

    He bounced around 4 teams in 3 years. His career 3pt % in real games is [drum roll...] 13.6%. His career fg% is a whopping 23%. I mean, his numbers makes Rafer Alston look like the best shooter ever.

    Oh, and what has Brent Barry done in 13 years? 40.7% from downtown. And this is just shooting. As to passing, decision making...

    Okay, if we really want to save Barry's leg, which is a legitimate thing, we'd probably keep Luther Head, who has been proven to be a much more consistent shooter than Wafer.
     
  14. pacmania

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    I respectfully disagree. Too see is to believe. Exhibition season is basically a try out to see what the non guaranteed players can do and in my opinion Wafer showed enough skills to merit admission. Some players are naturally gifted or talented , while others develop or improve through the years thats why we have most improved players like Hedo. Lets take Hedo and Leandro Barbosa, these players were scrubs but they worked hard on their game and improved. Some players are busts while others pleasantly surprise. Thats why in the stock market there are winners and losers because not every thing can be predicted from past performance, there is no hard and fast rule. I think especially from last season, we can never have too many shooters on this team, with our defense stacked, it would be nice to add another offensive weapon in our arsenal.
     
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    Horrible idea. Wafer can make things happen for himself. So can every other decent player in the league. Barry makes others better, that's the rarest attribute in basketball.
     
  16. pacmania

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    I think thats a given. Its unquestionable that barry has more savvy as a veteran and is proven and tested. But on those occasions where Barry has a shooting slump like tonight where he was like zero out of four attempts from downtown, and the defense is giving us the open three or collapsing on the post, it would be nice to have a bench player who could have a hot shooting night . Now that the league has discarded the strictly man to man defensive system , defenses are collapsing more in the paint putting a premium on outside shooting. Thats why Jason Kidd didn't quite work out the way the Mavs wanted it to.

    it would be more useful and less risky to gamble on a shooter/slasher if ever a non guaranteed player makes the team.
     
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    Well put.

    However, I agree it'll be good idea to limit his minutes during the regular season. But Barry brings SO MUCH more to the table. Just watch Barry very closely during a game. If a play breaks down and/or guys get stuck holding the ball, Barry comes in and OFTEN rescues play to get the ball moving again. Usually Barry doesn't get an assist but it's his hustle that led to the opportunity.

    Just watch Barry closely. It's so much of a no-brainer it's hard to put into words.

    Wafer will be a great guy to stick in to fill some minutes to give other guys some rest. But that's about all. With Wafer, what you see is what you get ...which isn't bad. But there's no comparison to Barry.
     
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    Watched Wafer at the game last night. His 1 on 1 and his team defense was horrible to say the least. He's a slasher that could be used in certain situations, but Simmons of all people are getting around the baseline with too much ease.
     
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    Man!!..u cant be serious. The Nba is all about proving your self as a player. Yea he has been in the Nba for 3 seasons, but those 3 seasons he used to grow and learn. As we all seen in the pre-season, he has come a long way from where he started. I think as of Right Now, Wafer does deserve a spot in the rotation and should be in front of barry. Barry is really old, and we are going to need his legs later on in the season. And lets be realistic, all we know barry can do is shoot 3's, and Rite now VON, is lighting it from the distant land.
     

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