Vince Carter - Let's talk stats and performance (like Morey)

Over their careers, Id say T>V, but right now, V>T. I'd love a tracy for carter deal, would take care of alot of our problems...

 

Who wouldn't? I say keep Ron, trade Mac, basically build for this years run without putting yourself out of the 2010 races.

 

I totally agree. I think he is a much safer bet then T-mac his contract only runs 1 more year. Also, folks this whole 2010 FA class is a crap shoot. The is no guarantee the Rockets are able to sign anyone. I'll wager Morey see's this as a great way to get good players via trade (sure things) rather then gamble on getting Bosh or someone of the like to sign a FA deal here.

To me you take the safe route and make the trades to get the players you want rather then banking on a FA signing.

 

I'd hesitate to give up Tracy for Carter, even though Carter is the better player now and probably going forward.

I think Tracy's contract will be a much better sell next year, when it's expiring. There's an interesting post on TrueHoop today:

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"I guarantee you [Blazers GM] Kevin Pritchard has gotten better offers for LaFrentz than the Suns have gotten for [Amare] Stoudemire."

Amazing, huh?

I guess, ordinarily, here's where you'd do some kind of statistical comparision of the two players, or talk about how if his jumper is falling, LaFrentz can really help a team.

But LaFrentz is out for the season, and won't play before his deal expires. Stoudemire is a young, healthy, starting All-Star big man.

Assuming this is really the case -- could there be a clearer sign that in today's NBA economy, cost-cutting is king?
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Next season will be the eve of the most anticipated offseason in recent memory. McGrady's 23 million expiring contract is going to be very attractive to a number of teams. I think it will pay off to be patient.

 

Carter is a good player. I haven't kept up with him since he resigned with the nets so I don't know how much he has left in the tank. If we could get rid of T-mac for him without getting rid of our youth it wouldn't hurt.

T-mac is the "Golden Ticket" though.

 

"Golden Ticket"? To first round exit ville?

 

Is there a reason why people are so convinced we are getting Carter?

 

Carter has very nice numbers and at good percentages. The downside is, he's never been asked to operate with a real big man getting touches down low (aside from his partial season with Dream), and Kidd & Co were very frustrated with his decision-making on offense.

But it's irrefutable that he gives us far more than McGrady can at this juncture, and comes $6M cheaper per year.

Evan

 

Multiple newspapers/websites reporting it.

 

now that is just sick. He jumped off 2 from just inside the freethrow line

 

Haha. Yeah T-Mac and gold don't go together. T-Mac and rust maybe.

 

Over Ben Wallace (while he was good) no less.

 

The article is about a year old, but it's got some good statistical info.

http://str8hoops.com/2008/02/28/everyone-hates-vince-carter/

 

McGrady is completely washed up for all practical purposes. These 'maybe playing with his cousin will light a fire in him!' comments are pretty delusional. If he's truly hurt, then no trade can fix that, and if it's a motivational issue, then playing with Carter won't do anything that playing with this currently stacked roster should have done. So forget about McGrady.

If the McGrady/Yao model was a complete failure, what makes us think a lesser version of it in Carter/Yao can get it done? Please abstain from all 'but we have McGrady too!' commentary. He's irrelevant. I just hope we aren't destroying our future flexibility on the basis of present delusions.

The question is, do we have a better chance at signing a max free agent in 2010 than we do at trading McGrady for someone of that caliber next year?

If you trade Ron for Carter this year, then trade Tracy's expiring next year, and Carter's expiring the year after, you can try to contend this year while still rebuilding and maximizing your asset values. The problem is, you had better be sure you can get a good deal for Tracy next year, or you are completely screwed.

I'm just trying to think of a plausible explanation as to why Morey would entertain trading for Carter because it makes absolutely no sense to me. Hopefully I'm missing something, because a deal like this has Carrol Dawson written all over it.

 

Carter on the juice?

 

Because a HEALTHY Mcgrady/Yao model with this same basic roster (referring to last year) wasn't a complete failure.

Who knows how far the team goes last year if Yao doesn't go down.

 

It was also YEARS ago, please notice that Ben Wallace is in the paint as a Piston....

How many years ago was that? 4? 5?

DD

 

Fran Blinebury offers this as a possible explanation:

[rquoter][Remember who owns the team. Les, Les, Les loves names, names, names. --Fran][/rquoter]