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[Videogames] Which new console game trend bothers you the most?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Drexlerfan22, Dec 17, 2008.

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Which one of these bothers you the most?

  1. Lack of local co-op/multiplayer

    15 vote(s)
    21.4%
  2. Ridiculously buggy releases

    26 vote(s)
    37.1%
  3. DLC that should've been included

    24 vote(s)
    34.3%
  4. None of these trends bother me at all

    5 vote(s)
    7.1%
  1. Drexlerfan22

    Drexlerfan22 Member

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    There are any number of great things about this generation of gaming. To name a few, there are lots of games are online-enabled now, it's easy for everyone to get at game demos, and it's easy for developers to add expansions to existing games.

    That said, there are several trends that I find highly irritating, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Which one of these annoys you the most?


    1. Local (non-online) multiplayer is slowly going the way of the dodo.
    Example: Brothers in Arms Hell's Highway
    I think this is my pick. So many games are focusing on online multiplayer aspect that the local co-op or multiplayer is often tacked-on or completely absent. Which sucks for me, because local co-op games are pretty much my favorite form of gaming.

    2. Developers not bothering to fix obvious bugs before release, because they know they can release patches later.
    Example: Bully Scholarship Edition.
    Not much to explain here... it's pretty plain and simple lazy bull***t.

    3. Developers release a full-price game and have planned-ahead-of-time expansions mere weeks after release to suck more money out of you.
    Example: Star Wars the Force Unleashed
    Talk about insidious crap. If you bought the Force Unleashed new at release and want all the extra content released so far, you're out roughly $84. It would've been easy to include all that content in the original game... but they'd rather bleed you for all you're worth.
     
  2. DOMINATOR

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    quick thing about BIAHH it's more of a SP game than a MP. the MP was basically tacked on by a different developer. the MP sucks IMO compared to other FPS.

    i'm a PC gamer so i dont really have a problem with DLC. publishers put crazy deadlines on stuff so devs have to leave stuff off that is not polished.

    expansions again are pushed more by publishers i think. best thing to do is just not buy the product.
     
  3. Coach AI

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    Damn it Drexler, get out of my head! :p

    I agree completely about the local multiplayer thing. Sometimes you and a friend just want to play a split screen/co-op game.

    Though I will say that, as I've gotten older I find the online to be the area I spend the most time if I do any multi. Little harder to have friends just drop by and hang out for hours now that I'm married....

    Still, it seems like most developers just care less about putting that stuff in nowadays. A shame.
     
  4. fmullegun

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    Expansions packs bother me the most, BUT if you combine #2 and #3 you get the perfect storm. Releasing a game that is bigtime buggy AND not fixing it because they are working on releasing the expansion pack.


    It is basically our fault for allowing this though. If we could actually boycott the pack until the OG game is fixed. :(
     
  5. DaDakota

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    Trust me, the developers are not the problem when it comes to releasing games with bugs.

    DD
     
  6. WhoMikeJames

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    These aren't really trends but,

    -Xbox 360 only releases... Ugh.

    -PS3 still lagging behind in 3rd place behind Wii and 360

    -I want another game just like Bioshock to come out
     
  7. ScriboErgoSum

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    I don't like buggy releases, but at least with current consoles, they can patch those after they are released. I remember I hit a bug in Jak 2 on the PS2, which basically stopped me at 92% completed. The only remedy I had was replaying the game to avoid the bug or sending in my memory card. With this generation it could be fixed with a download.

    I'm all right with local co-op not being there. I never have friends over to play video games, but I do meet up with a few buddies now and then to play online. Being married with a kid curtails the big game parties of my college days (Doom or Bomberman + Strawberry Hill = FUN!).

    I think DLC is probably the most annoying, but I understand it. I've always believed in buying the game and unlocking content by achievements in the game. I don't want to have to buy skins or extra levels. However, I've also completed great games and gladly would have paid extra to extend the game. This is where the market's going. Maybe it's a good thing. I'd be down with paying less up front for a new game, and shelling out the extra money for more content if I like it. At least I wouldn't be out the full dough if I couldn't stand the game.
     
  8. dntrwl

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  9. Ziggy

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    The reason there are so many bugs at release is directly related to patches though. NCAA 09, GTA4, Resistance 2, NBA 2k9, etc... All these games came out with broken features with the intention to fix them eventually.
     
  10. Drexlerfan22

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    And that's absolutely what I bought it for: the campaign. I love shooters with good campaigns. That said, I'd love it much more than I already do if I could play split-screen with a friend.

    I don't have a problem with DLC in general either. I was very happy to pay for extra maps on GRAW/GRAW2, I loved that Burnout Paradise got free content many months after release, etc. What I have a problem with is DLC that has no other reason to not be in the game other than they want you to pay extra (*glares at Soul Calibur 4*).

    And it's not only games that lack local multiplayer completely... it's stuff like Left 4 Dead that I really wish let you have 4 players locally. Ditto Rainbow Six: Vegas. GRAW can do it, why not those games?

    That was a given when FPS's were released years back, in the N64/PS days.

    That IS the problem with DLC, unfortunately: it works. They leave off content that, by rights, should be included, and everyone wants it. But that doesn't mean they're doing right by their customers...

    I'm not talking about the people developing the games specifically, I'm talking about the developers as an entity; the whole company. No one's holding a gun to Rockstar's head telling them to release the thing by a certain date. They're doing it to themselves.

    Come now... buy a 360, they're cheap. And Bioshock 2 has already been announced.

    Yeah, I get that it's nice to be able to patch bugs. I like that functionality... it's just being abused. It SHOULD be a useful tool, not a crutch.

    And yeah, that would be great if they charged less and THEN released a bunch of extra content. Problem is, they're not charging less...
     
  11. Splash

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    Looks like Starcraft II is going to do something similar. They'll release three CD's (one per race) in different time periods rather than release them all at once. I'm a sucker for Blizzard though. I'll buy everything.
     
  12. HAYJON02

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    With RPGs specifically, they need to get back to the story and gameplay and less about the visuals. FF12 was basically Star Wars.

    Every game should do their best to incorporate multi-player (
    coop preferably). We could in our generation eliminate social anxiety.
     
  13. bladeage

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    The increasing number of people who are buying into the gimmicky Wii.
     
  14. SuperStar

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    Since im a JRPG nut.

    I hate how the rgps take so long to develop now with all the fancy graphics while being short as hell. I rather have my once a year final fantasies =(
     
  15. wizkid83

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    FPS players think of themselves as hardcore gamers (i.e. post Halo world).
     
  16. Drexlerfan22

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    I'll never forget when I was over at a friend's place a year or two ago... he had two networked 360s, and his younger siblings were playing lots of Halo 3 and CoD4. They were pretty good at them, too.

    Then we took over the systems to play GRAW2. My god, they were pitiful. They kept asking where the jump button was, or why there was no auto-aim correction. Or why their guys ran so slow. Or why they kept dying when they strayed from the squad. Or why they died when they jumped in front of a teammate's line of site without warning them first.

    It definitely cracked me up. :D
     
  17. Apollo Creed

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    I voted for the bugs (I think it's the worst) but this really pisses me off. Anyone who owns Beautiful Katamari has the worst case of this of all.

    The DLC levels are actually ON THE DISC. You have to pay to unlock them. You don't actually download anything of substance. They are making you pay for something you already bought. They tried to claim it was because the game retailed at 40 bucks brand new, but I'm pretty sure when I paid my 40 damn dollars I paid for that disc and everything on it.
     
  18. Drexlerfan22

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    That's messed up, I hadn't heard of that one.

    Talk about the height of blood-sucking capitalism...
     
  19. v3.0

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    People who play these fake plastic toys and screech to songs and think they're rockin'...
     
  20. JunkyardDwg

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    Definitely local co-op ...my friends and I may not have huge game nights like in the good ole days...but we still get together every few weeks or so. The only games these days you can play local coop are of the rock band variety, and I'm not a big fan of those games. What the hell happened to racing games and fps offering split screen. Bugs the hell out of me.

    I'm gonna also add the lack of truly innovative games for the Wii....I'm talking games for the die hard fans...instead we get crap that appeals to the casual fan that might not be there a few years down the road...stuff like Wii Sports, Fit and Animal Crossing (that was just basically a clone of its predecessors). I can see they are tapping into those casual gamers, they brought in a whole new base; that's cool and all. But how bout something for the die hards too. But instead we get Wii Music. Truly dissapointing. Shoot even the virtual console has become a letdown, I can't remember when I last bought a nes or snes game. Though there seems to be some positive games on Wiiware.
     

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