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[Video] Pastor Thomas Muthee expells the witches from Sarah Palin

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  1. KingCheetah

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    Gold.
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    #1 KingCheetah, Sep 24, 2008
  2. Franchise2001

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    I don't want this women anywhere near the red button.
     
    #2 Franchise2001, Sep 24, 2008
  3. SamFisher

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    Shrewd - cut Barack off at the pass for the African Witch Doctor vote.

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    #3 SamFisher, Sep 24, 2008
  4. DonnyMost

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    "I told the prince of darkness 'thanks, but no thanks' on that bridge to Hell."
     
    #4 DonnyMost, Sep 24, 2008
  5. IROC it

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    Very common prayer. Especially concerning politicians. We pray for our nation every Sunday...

    I've prayed the same type prayer, publicly, for our leaders "from the school boards to the white house, and all points in between" for years.


    Yes even for the Clinton White House. ;) I don't want to leave anything uncovered in prayer. I've encouraged our people to pray for every candidate this election cycle... for protection, for favor, for honesty, for transparency, against forces that seek to hide truth and deceive to be squelched and silenced so truth can be made clear...


    But then most believers don't want things not protected, or covered in prayer... It's what we do. We pray. Most believers understand the principles of prayer for favor, provision... Jesus even said, "Pray in this manner" in the opening of the first verse of Lord's prayer.


    Jesus prayed in Luke 17 for us... who were yet to believe... in the present, even back then.

    It's a faith issue... completely harmless to pray for these things.

    There's nothing unusual about anything I see here. It is all Biblical.

    I would transcribe the prayer and list chapter and verse, but... not many would care anyway.

    You either understand that Christians still have the right to practice Christianity in this nation or you don't.

    Every day in congress they open in prayer... in the name of the Judeo-Christian diety. It's not anything new.

    If you don't like it, then vote out any Christian.


    I'll tell you this... I guarantee you, Obama's own children had similar prayers over them, for God to protect, provide, against wicked spiritual forces, etc. at the baby dedication/christening ceremonies that Jeremiah Wright performed... and? I'm sure similar prayer was offered up for Barack personally, over their wedding... and?


    It's Christianity.

    In case you haven't noticed, Christians read, and by-and-large (at least their ministers) believe the Bible.... and pray it's precedents.

    This is nothing new. If anything, this will further strengthen the Christian base.


    Thanks, KingCheetah. It is golden.


    BTW- He said "witchcraft" which by most accounts is anything not in favor of God's Will. We don't know God's Will, other than what is found in Scripture, and he says this:

    "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places" (Ephesians 6:12)

    "witchcraft" is not just a Frank Sinatra song... it's a term for spiritual forces that are anti-God.









    Here's a list of every past President's religious affiliations:

    1 George Washington Episcopalian
    2 John Adams Congregationalist (raised); Unitarian
    3 Thomas Jefferson Episcopalian; later no specific denomination
    held Christian, Deist, Unitarian beliefs
    4 James Madison Episcopalian (deist?)
    5 James Monroe Episcopalian (deist?)
    6 John Quincy Adams Unitarian
    7 Andrew Jackson Presbyterian
    8 Martin Van Buren Dutch Reformed
    9 William Henry Harrison Episcopalian
    10 John Tyler Episcopalian (deist)
    11 James Knox Polk Presbyterian; Methodist
    12 Zachary Taylor Episcopalian
    13 Millard Fillmore Unitarian
    14 Franklin Pierce Episcopalian
    15 James Buchanan Presbyterian
    16 Abraham Lincoln raised Baptist; later no specific denomination (deist)
    17 Andrew Johnson Christian (no specific denomination)
    18 Ulysses S Grant Presbyterian; Methodist
    19 Rutherford B. Hayes Presbyterian; Methodist (?)
    20 James A. Garfield Disciples of Christ
    21 Chester A. Arthur Episcopalian
    22 Grover Cleveland Presbyterian
    23 Benjamin Harrison Presbyterian
    24 Grover Cleveland Presbyterian
    25 William McKinley Methodist
    26 Theodore Roosevelt Dutch Reformed; Episcopalian
    27 William Howard Taft Unitarian
    28 Woodrow Wilson Presbyterian
    29 Warren G. Harding Baptist
    30 Calvin Coolidge Congregationalist
    31 Herbert Hoover Quaker
    32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt Episcopalian
    33 Harry S. Truman Southern Baptist
    34 Dwight D. Eisenhower River Brethren; Jehovah's Witnesses; Presbyterian
    35 John F. Kennedy Catholic
    36 Lyndon B. Johnson Disciples of Christ
    37 Richard M. Nixon Quaker
    38 Gerald Ford Episcopalian
    39 Jimmy Carter Baptist (former Southern Baptist)
    40 Ronald Reagan Disciples of Christ; Presbyterian
    41 George H. W. Bush Episcopalian
    42 William Jefferson Clinton Baptist
    43 George W. Bush Methodist (former Episcopalian)

    http://www.adherents.com/adh_presidents.html

    It is very telling that every POTUS in History has at least claimed Christianity in some form, yet when we see someone in public office displaying it... people freak out.
     
    #5 IROC it, Sep 25, 2008
  6. giddyup

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    Surprising how many Quakers and Unitarians are on that list...
     
    #6 giddyup, Sep 25, 2008
  7. giddyup

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    it's the very same spiritual warfare of which you speak...
     
    #7 giddyup, Sep 25, 2008
  8. IROC it

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    Maybe maybe no


    FTW - Tell me why they were called "Quakers." 1000 points to the right answer.
     
    #8 IROC it, Sep 25, 2008
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    They liked Oatmeal.
     
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    That was a King Cheetah worthy post. Very funny.
     
    #10 gifford1967, Sep 25, 2008
  11. FranchiseBlade

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    Praying for our leaders is a common prayer. Praying about witchcraft from a pastor who claimed to have stopped a witch that he claimed was causing auto accidents isn't common.

    That being said, I don't really think this is an important election issue.
     
    #11 FranchiseBlade, Sep 25, 2008
  12. DaDakota

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    No problem with Christianity at all, big problem with pastors who have accused others of witchcraft and ran them out of town.

    That is not religion, that is superstition.....I don't recall Jesus on the Mount talking about casting out witches.

    That is just fear mongering....in the name of religion, you know, kinda the same thing the Taliban does to the Islamic faith.....

    DD
     
    #12 DaDakota, Sep 25, 2008
  13. KingCheetah

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    The Witch-hunt of Mama Jane

    Muthee and his wife returned home to Kenya from Scotland, where he had finished his graduate studies, in 1988.[3][4] They soon felt that they were "called by God to Kiambu" and after six months of prayer, research, and "spiritual mapping," they came to believe that a witch known as "Mama Jane" was the cause of crime and spiritual oppression in the area.[1][3][4][5][6]

    Muthee alleged that "top government and business leaders [were] afraid to do anything without her approval," that at least one person per month would die in a car accident in front of her "divination house" (otherwise known as Emmanuel Clinic), and that she harassed his congregation.[3][4][7]

    According to Muthee, soon after his followers began to pray that God would either save or oust Mama Jane,[3][4][7][8] three young people died in another apparent accident in front of Mama Jane's clinic.[3][4][7]

    The angry townsfolk wanted to stone her in retaliation, and when the police entered Mama Jane's home to intervene, they were apparently startled by what they believed to be a demon and shot her pet python to death.[3][4][6][7][8]

    Mama Jane was then questioned by police, after which she left town.[3][4][8] Since then, Muthee has frequently referred to his witch-hunt as an example of successful spiritual warfare.[6]

    The event was depicted in two videos by George Otis, Jr.,[9][10] in which Muthee claimed that the crime rate in Kiambu dropped drastically after Mama Jane left.[1][3][5][7][11][12] However, Workgroup "Back to the Bible," headed by Pastor Rien van de Kraats of Kamperland, Netherlands, found no police reports or any other sources that backed up this claim.[12]

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    #13 KingCheetah, Sep 25, 2008
  14. mc mark

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    I didn't like the digging that was done on Obama and Wright and this makes me uncomfortable as well. There are better things to bash Palin for.
     
    #14 mc mark, Sep 25, 2008
  15. A_3PO

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    This isn't worth "bashing" Palin for at all. It might surprise some here, but praying for people during church service happens all the time.
     
    #15 A_3PO, Sep 25, 2008
  16. KingCheetah

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    The issue isn't 'praying for people' -- the issue is Palin's fervent support of someone who goes on witch hunts and believes you can pray the witches out of your congregation. We don't need this kind of superstitious nonsense one heartbeat away from the presidency.
     
    #16 KingCheetah, Sep 25, 2008
  17. DaDakota

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    I just hope she can pray away the gay in Lindsey Lohan.

    DD
     
    #17 DaDakota, Sep 25, 2008
  18. moestavern19

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    Haha thats great.

    The Barracuda strikes threatcon level 2 into the hearts of the whining cadre.
     
    #18 moestavern19, Sep 25, 2008
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  20. Bullard4Life

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    Or at least prays her up a hotter girlfriend...
     
    #20 Bullard4Life, Sep 25, 2008
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