[Video] History of U.S. Intervention in Iran - 1953 Until Present

Sorry man, I wish I had more to say. I think this is just another example of why U.S. needs to take a longer-term approach to any foreign affairs. It's also illustrative of the dangers of allowing business influence U.S. foreign affairs.

I think it's pretty obvious that while the U.S. populace might forget some of our worst imperialist actions, Iranians certainly haven't. No matter which party holds power in Iran, all are fiercely nationalistic. Our past shortsighted actions continue to undermine our future ability to engage across the world.

 

US needs to stop wasting money on foreign interventions on trying to instill a "democracy". Its failed so many many more times than it's worked

 

I think if that's all you have to say about it, that's some impressive bait.

While there's a lot of truth to it, the one-sidedness is overwhelming, practically oozing from the holes in what comes off like a high school student's writing assignment. I got to .... "THEY started it, THEY can finish it" and had to make it stop.

False's statement is a good one, and I think explains the US's positions, successes, and failings in dealing with Iran and the Middle East better than trying to imply or incite some deep seated hatred or desire to eradicate anyone.

It's easy to point fingers. Question is, how to move past that as sovereign entities in today's world. This video just points, and takes little to no responsibility for the past or the future.

 

Thanks Math, I'll check it out tonight. Currently watching a documentary called Endgame: A Future Scenario for Israel. Mostly talks about Iran and Israel. If you haven't heard of it, check out fulldocumentary.com. It has documentaries on all sorts of things, but my main interest is the middle east.

I'll give you my opinion of the video by tomorrow, hopefully. I am in the process of writing a paper about my desire to defund Israel. I am going to send it to Congress. Any reccomendations of things to say or read/watch? I have a pretty good knowledge of the region as a Middle Eastern Studies and Government major, but there's so much I have forgotten and so much I have yet to learn.

TBO, my two favorite posters are ATU and Mathloom. They tend to talk about the subjects I am most interested in. Even if I don't agree with a lot ATU says, he brings another point of view which is very important and all too often ignored.

Thanks again

 

So your position is it's spot on, and there is no room for discussion past the undoing of reality per the terms of this video's author?

Productive.

The circumstances have more than one perspective. The video doesn't.

You presented the video and asked what we thought. I obliged, and now you want to discuss the perceived impossibilities and atrocities of the situation, rather than how the situation was presented in the video you posted and in lieu of engaging in constructive dialogue, while ignoring my solicited response to the original post.

I dunno. I knew it was bait, but come on.

 

You can play that video for every country south of the texas border too just replace oil with that other addiction, sugar. What I find funny and fascinating is how patriots get all uptight when, let's say the president of mexico comes to the white house, and gives his opinion on topics like immigration. How dare he tell us how to do things!! When in reality, the U.S just goes to where ever they want and take whatever they want under democracy of course.

It wouldn't hurt for ' true patriots' to put themselves in the shoes of people across the world. Sometimes Revolutions are necessary, nobody likes being intervened otherwise I'd be drinking british tea right now.

Good video, mathloom.

 

For inisght into Israel's mindset I suggest some documentaries on the Holocaust. You know, when another country tried to exterminate them from the face of the earth. Left Jews a little paranoid.

 

I am not Ahmadinejad, I don't deny the Holocaust, I am very aware of the devestation caused by the last 2000 years of oppression, exhile, and humiliation. We're not talking about the past, we're talking about an ugly and dangerous future. Israel is playing with fire. A war with Iran would destabilize and already troubled region. Israeli, American, and even Iranian political and military historians and strategists have agreed that America is in a very dangerous position. We are held hostage by our alliance with Israel, who is no longer a strategic ally, but rather a strategic burden. These are the words of Colonel L. Wilkerson, Colin Powell's former chief of staff.

If Israel attacks Iran, and Iran strikes back, Israel will destroy Iran. Israel will be sure to destroy anyone who attempts to destroy her. The US is caught in the middle, if they allow Israel to go through with these attacks, WWIII is not far away. Iranian political scientist, Anoush Ehteshami, among other experts, agree that if Iran and Israel attack one another, America will be forced into intervening to prevent a catastrophe. However, it will be too late, because Iran has influence in many nations across the middle east, most notably Syria and Lebanon. We can easily expect Syria to harden even more, for the gulf states to deteriorate, and for Lebanon to regress back to the late 70's-80's.

Israelis have constantly used the guilt of the Holocaust to defend their racist, fascist regime. They are hypocrites who are attacking the people who had no involvement in the Holocaust. The middle east was run by the Ottomon's and then the British, French, and Russians, they gave Israel a country from someone elses land. Now they are so panic stricken that they have become the exact thing they tried to escape from just 70 years ago. The Holocaust can no longer be used as a legitimate excuse for Israel's actions.

The US must intervene right now or come November we could easily see the beginning of WWIII.

 

They act like Mossadegh was not losing support before the Shah was re introduced. He had started to take a lot of heat as Iran was buckling under the pressure of Britain's embargo (this was before OPEC) and their happen to be an oil glut at the time so their oil was not needed. Also this was a tumultuous after WW2 as governments tried to establish themselves after the break up of first the Ottomans then the remnants of Imperialist. Not trying to justify our actions just more context of the situations. (Currently reading 7 sisters, and other oil literature)

 

There will be a payback time.

 

Wait a YouTube video that is one sided?!!

Inconceivable!

Haven't had the chance to watch the video yet but am familiar with the history. Undermining Mossedegh was a dark chapter in US foreign affairs and one that we have been paying ever since. Unfortunately as Conquistador11 noted it wasn't the only time that the US undermined a democracy to be replaced by a dictator.

 

Very informative. You should read "The Economic Hitman", by John Perkins.

 

US government should drop the always self righteous stands and just say that the US will do whatever is in the best interest of the US (at least in the eyes of the US administration at the time).

 

Ofcourse it is a one sided video, but certain fact should not be ignored. The problem is the US doesn't learn from their previous mistakes (overthrowing a government to install a pro-US leader seldom works out good).

And secondly The Netherlands, why did we have to be involved, it is getting a bit tired of being the US and UK's lapdog.