VIDEO] Fox News Guest Claims ‘It’s Time To Have A Muslims Check-Point Line In America

LOL, wow. Those were some random r****ds in that audience. Not quite sure what we're supposed to argue about here. The guest is a looney for saying something like that.

 

wow that is absolutely preposterous. profiling a certain group of people because of their religion will only open the gates for hatred. i have many muslim friends who are just as american and patriotic as the prototypical white male. now people want to target them because of their beliefs?

 

i dont like the idea, but it is true that a growing number of people are starting to think this way. i watched "the siege" just the other day to remind myself why it's a bad idea.

then again, it worked with the japanese in ww2 right?

 

If you want to discriminate against me because you are afraid of me, then **** YOU.

 

so do we profile only brown skin muslim looking people? what about those rag headed muslims? oh wait....those are those sikh muslim arabs.

my point is how the hell do you profile muslim? we've got a lot of black muslims in america. further weren't some of the guys busted in england recent converts to islam? wasn't one of the muslim terrorists busted in america a few years back a hispanic man? it's just as difficult as profiling for militia members like mcveigh. also, a good amount of these freaks have built their lives around fitting in and not sitting out.

so how do you profile even if you want to profile?

 

Good points made. I'm a Muslim myself (born in Afghanistan, raised in Los Angeles), and think that profiling terrorists will be extremely hard, if not impossible b/c of the wide range of Muslims. Islam is the fasting growing religion in the world, and in the last couple decades, a large number of Latin and Central Americans have coverted. So that adds millions more to the large black, white, and arab muslim population. How are you going to profile against that? Hot debate topic.... I personally think the best way to go about it is continue the war to bring more democracy to the Middle East and SE Asia. The prime example I give to my friends of how the war has succeeded is Afghanistan. Not one Afghan was involved in the 9-11 attack, but since there was a rouge regime that benefitted greatly from Al Qaeda, Afghanistan was allowed to be a terrorist training site. Same will become of places in Africa and Latin America if weak democract governments are replaced by rouge regimes. Terrorism's worst enemy is rights and liberties to the people. Once people can make a living, they will be less willing to blow themselves up!

 

What!!!! This is totally a ridiculous and unfair idea. Why should Muslim get their own seperate line?

Imagine Muslims getting to waltz right up to a tiny short line while the rest of us have to go through that grueling long line!

 

Don't worry - it will never happen. How do you even identify someone as Muslim????

By the way, I do think security should have discretion to stop whoever they want without being questioned about profiling or whatever. They should be empowered to their job, not be civil rights advocates.

Look, when I go through customs with sunglasses and a tropical shirt and sandles, and i'm not fully shaven, and they ask me a question and my ears haven't popped so I say "What???" and I get searched for drugs....I don't complain. You know why? Because I get to go into the express line baby! And Frankly, if I had their job I'd be looking at a dark-skinned man in their 30's with a bit more care then a 90-year old caucasian grandmother.

There's shouldn't be a seperate line, but we do need to allow people to do their jobs as they see fit. The experts should decide how to best fight terrorism...not politicians, not you or me, and certainly not a radio show host.

 

Make them wear a yellow crescent moon on their shirts and jackets.

 

Roughly 70% of Arabs in America are NOT Muslim.
50% of Muslims in America are black.

You're then left with having to sort through all of the southeast asians whom I would guess are equally divided amongst Hindu and Muslim with a small portion of Sikhs and Christian Malayalees.

So you can't just form a seperate line based on appearance because that would be pretty inefficient. You could possibly have a list already made for Muslims on the flight by researching their names when the ticket is purchased. You would then have them stand in a seperate line when identified. This could probably take a while, so I think for convenience sake, you could require Muslims to carry some form of identification. Similar to the Jews in Nazi Germany.

And I think we're one terrorist attack away from all of the above becoming reality. I have no doubt that the administration would support such measures. The question is public opinion. While probably split now, one more attack, and you can probably justify such racial profiling to the masses.

 

First of all, racial profiling already exists. It exists all over the world. It has always existed, and it will always exist. You can not change that...nor should it be changed.

The art of identifying a threat by a person who is trained to look for certain things is somewhat logical and somewhat intuitive. If you make the system purely random, then you're failing to optimize on the reality of the situation. If you try to force optimization, by say "screening all muslims" then you open the door for people to exploit the system.

Part of the weapon in screening is that the screeners don't know how a terrorist might be identified. If that knowledge is public, then obviously a terrorist would adjust. This is why a seperate line would actually create a security risk - becuase it would create a false sense of complacency. Therefore it's useless. That's why you will never see it - it wouldn't work anyway.

There's probably 50 things these guys look at, including race, in determining who should be screened. And some of it's gut. I don't want to override a security officials gut feeling. That's our last line of defense...so what we should hope for instead of a seperate line is - how can we get better people in the airports?

 

Good points, NYKer.

Once you start to profile one race/nationality, you will start the 2nd profile.

There is no stopping.

 

Sounds similar to some comments made recently on this board directing anger at all Jews for the Lebanese conflict and how all Jews should be very very afraid.

 

Very true. And interestingly, some of the same people who did exactly that are among those screaming bloody murder now.

I wouldn't profile by religion. But security guards will profile people who look more or less high-risk, and rightly so.

 

Agreed, but I worry that this is the first step taken down the road to acceptance of the labeling, and the same barbaric steps taken by Nazi Germany concerning the Jews.

Don't have lines, but DO profile at airports etc......

DD

 

profile for what??? anyone over the age of 10 and under the age of 50? are you just saying what makes you feel better? have you even been reading any of the points we have been making about how you cannot profile for 'muslim'?

 

Not Muslims, just anyone suspicious....generally distressed etc......

DD