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Victor Wembanyama tank thread

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Lunareste, Oct 19, 2022.

  1. rpr52121

    rpr52121 Sober Fan
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    This is not the main issue or worry for me.

    The pace of the game has been steadily increasing over the past 3 decades. So even playing the same minutes as 10 or 20 years ago means more possessions and more times sprinting up and down the court.

    Also offenses are all bout spacing with 3 pt shooters over the past 3-4 seasons. The best ones also utilizing movements and cuts. That means more short area burst sprinting, stopping, and changing directions. Essentially players today have to cover way more distance with more quick changing of directions than they did during the 90's, 00's or 10's.

    Tolerating that game style at that size and mass on the leg joints and ligaments worry me way more. Players even in prior eras at that size had difficulty staying healthy. The only player in the NBA to make any impact at that size in the recent NBA game style has been Kristaps Porziņģis and he has also been severely injury prone.

    I'd be extremely worried about the wear and tear over an 82 game season, playoffs, and French national team commitments. Especially a player that teams would expect to be a center piece on both offense and defensive while playing large minutes in important games.
     
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  2. Raven

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    Only 71 more hellish days until lottery night. Tick, tick, tick, tick.

    :D
     
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  3. tinman

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    Spurs got him
    Just like they got Tim Duncan

    we are the Rick Pitino Celtics who tank and didn’t get Tim Duncan
    @RasaqBoi @TimDuncanDonaut
     
  4. Little Bit

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    The Spurs doing everything to get Victor, sitting multiple players on back to back games against the Rockets while the Rockets play everyone like a moron. The little cushion we had against the Spurs is now gone.
     
  5. peleincubus

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    nothing in this game effects that % and it is highly likely neither team will do anything to change that. The pistons/spurs/rockets will all have the same %'s for the top 3 picks.
     
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  6. Raven

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    Rockets are going to be Texans 2.0 if they aren't careful.
     
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    It’s the fact we could drop out of the top 5 which is the most annoying.
     
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    Wtf are we doing, screwing our chances to be really good by drafting a franchise player? Smh...
     
  9. Pringles09

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    Facing a team that knows how to tank

    Top 3 team have the same odds at victor
     
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  10. jayfree

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    People keep saying that but not once has the worst team picked #1 since the new rules in 4 years. With about 1/7 odds that would mean 1 time out of 7 years the worst team should pick first. Which means most likely it will happen within the next 3 making it 33.3% odds it happens this year. Not exact science but it'll be hard for the NBA to explain each year why the worst team never gets the #1 pick.
     
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  11. tinman

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    Pray for Brandon Miller
     
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    That he doesnt go to prison?
     
  13. OremLK

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    This one's called gambler's fallacy, it's a new 1/7 chance each year. The odds don't change based upon what happened in the past
     
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    That's why I said it's not exact. But going in to the new rules years ago the worst team should hit it at least once in 7 years. If the worst team doesn't then the league will have a hard time explaining their method of continuing this format.
     
  15. Dr of Dunk

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    OremLK already took care of the first part of what you said, so for the second part : with the new lottery rules, the league wasn't interested in guaranteeing the worst team eventually gets the best pick as much as they were trying to dissuade teams from repeatedly/overtly tanking ("The Process") for a high draft pick while still allowing the worst teams to have a better chance at higher picks in each draft than other teams.

    If a team is bad enough to be among the 3 worst teams for 7 consecutive seasons, they probably have themselves to blame more than they do the league and draft probabilities. I mean, you can be a bad team for 7 years, true, but if you're expecting to be the #1 pick for 7 years, something else is wrong.
     
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    I think the NBA gift wraps Victor to San Antonio as salute and goodbye to Pop

    These San Antonio fans think it’s destiny to get that frenchy
     
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    It be funny with all this bs hype, and this guy bust like oden, and looks like Shawn Bradley out there.
     
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    Sam Bowie
     
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    Meh, there's probably nobody outside the top 2 who moves the needle, if the Rockets end up drafting 3-8, they're going to end up with yet another 19 yo project who will struggle mightily his rookie season and not really add too many wins regardless of which Thompson twin or whoever else it ends up being.

    This could also happen with Henderson or theoretically Wembanyama, but it's less likely and more likely to be entertaining.

    It honestly doesn't matter to that much to me who it ends up being that it pays to get upset about drafting 5, 6 or 7. If it's not top 2, they're kind of ****ed.

    Rockets will have the same core problem of just not being good enough to be 30 win competitive, barring a Harden or some other big acquisition.
     
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    It doesn’t matter at this point . The drop off from 4 to 5 is pretty big . Let’s just try to win games to finish the season . We ain’t good enough to win our way out of top 4 worst odds. Worst record hasn’t won the number 1 pick in the draft since they changed it to lottery odds so we good
     

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