VG thinks Lampe is better than Hayes

i think he meant hypothetically, you could play lampe ahead of hayes...if you were going to find lampe playing time.

 

I thought JVG meant that Hayes was better than Lampe, that's why he didn't play Lampe.

Now your understanding of the English might be different.

 

I personally would prefer Lampe over Hayes. Hayes has little potential, all he will ever be is a smart and hustling player. Lampe could be something or could be a bust.

 

anyone think that VG is challenging his players, and his remarrrks are calculated?

 

Hayes is a rookie with plenty of potential and time to get mean. Lampe has never shown anything anywhere... Let me guess... you loved Boki? Even before he undressed Karla.

 

I agree 100%. Giving Lampe a few of Juwan's minutes would not be a bad idea. I did not read the article as dissing Hayes by any means- VG was on record that not including Hayes for the regular season roster was a mistake.

The ONLY criticism of JVG I can even consider credible is he sticks to his plans way too much. I would agree that we lost 2 games atleast because he did that- once Brian Cook lit us up and other time Ricky Davis/Mcants abused David Wesley.

His praise fo J HO and Ry Bo may in fact be a not so subtle way to tell the others- "when these dummies can hustle- why can't you guys who are young and have skills do better"- For a defensive genius to suggest the J Ho plays defense is very interesting.

 

I don't think he said Lampe is better than Hayes. He just said you "could probably" player Lampe over Hayes..possibility.

 

Lampe supposedly can shoot out to the 3p line. Not sure if he can rebound since he is not supposed to be a banger. We may never find out the way Gundy works things.

Gundy thinks he is an amateur psychologist and he does seem pretty amateurish trying to do it.

Hayes has some big strengths and some glaring weaknesses in his game. He rebounds at a rate comparable to Ben Wallace and hits jumpers outside of 2 feet about as often as Ryan Bowen. He also hustles for steals and putbacks and seems to be playing with Yao nicely. Unfortunately he is a lot shorter than Wallace and will have to fight to make a place for himself in the NBA.

He does do one thing that we seem to have in short supply and that is grab ORB's.

With the good foundation he brings with him from Kentucky he is worth working with to see if we have ourselves another Barkley-height rebounding machine who can hustle, steal, get putbacks, play off of Yao and maybe learn to hit a 5-10 ft jumper. Ben Wallace is scoring more these days so it is possible to develop skills over time.

With Tmac showing signs of needing more rest and possibly playing less minutes it might be a chance for Lampe to see what he can do - as he sounds more like a 6'11" SF than a PF/C right now. More a Dirk than a banger.

 

I think it was a sort of backhanded insult to Chuck Hayes. That's how I read it as well.

He's saying that Lampe isn't as good as Howard and Swift, and that's why he can't replace them in the rotation. He says that he could replace Hayes, but he doesn't want to do that because it would hurt the team chemistry. This implies that he doesn't think Hayes is better than Lampe, which is ridiculous.

I think Hayes should be getting big minutes for the team, but apparently JVG doesn't have much respect for what he brings which is strange. I guess he has a thing for soft, ineffective PFs.

 

Chron reporter: Will Lampe get any game time?
JVG: Hayes is the better player. Lampe will have his opportunity to make the playing roster next sesaon.
CF.net BBS: JVG playing mind games again

 

A diss of Hayes? Doesn't Van Grumpy preface the underlined statement with, "You would have to play him ahead of bigs that are better than him right now," thereby indicating that the only way Lampe would play would be to take time away from players playing better than him (i.e. Hayes)?

Selective reading ROCKS!

 

That's not what he meant. Read the quote carefully:

Why did he say the second part ("you could play him ahead of Chuck Hayes") if he was including Chuck as one of the bigs that are better than Lampe? Clearly, Hayes has a lesser status than Howard and Swift in JVG's mind, which is wrong since he's outperformed them.

And his reason for not putting Lampe ahead of Hayes also shows he doesn't care much about what Hayes brings. The reason you don't put Lampe ahead of Chuck isn't "to experiment isn't prudent" but rather "Hayes is a very good player who's much better than Lampe."

 

I don't fathom your logic. "To experiment isn't prudent" seems to mean, Hayes is working well for us right now. Lampe has the upside (he *IS* supposed to be more talented than Hayes) but we don't have the luxury of experimenting with him now.

I mean get real people. Chuck Hayes is extremely productive and an overachiever, but when you look at the scouting reports on these two guys - there's a reason Lampe was such a high seed in the draft to begin with.

 

JVG: I wouldnt eat garbage because it sucks... even broccoli is preferable.

JVG: I guess I could eat garbage once if someone paid me a million dollar, but its
probably not a good idea.

CFnets: JVG likes eating garbage more than broccoli!



posted by: not J

 

I think he just means that you'd have to experiment with playing him ahead of better players like Hayes but giving him minutes ahead of more productive players just to see what happens isn't the best decision given the situation the Rockets are in now.

At least that's how I read it.

 

this dude knows his stuff.

This is why I cut for Chuck. He brings energy.

Yes, he has a knack for getting rebounds...almost like a poor man's Rodman....BUT it's the energy he brings to the team that makes a differnce when he's on the floor....

just my 50 cent...hate it or love it...lol

 

It is very clear that JVG is saying Hayes is playing better and he does not want to experiment with Lampe while things are working. That is exactly why Lampe is now inactive.

 

I really have no idea how you interpreted that as JVG saying Lampe is better than Hayes.

 

I don't think Lampe just like Boki has played any real minutes. Boki got a chance in NO and he didn't do anything. Lampe hasn't played many minutes since being drafted...i wouldn't mind giving him a few minutes to see what he has going. I mean the guy was supposed to be a Lotto pick if it wasn't for his buyout problem...either way if we end up going south this season why not play him.