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Venezuela Set to Develop Nuclear Power... With Russia

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by IROC it, Sep 29, 2008.

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  1. IROC it

    IROC it Member

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    And Barack said they were not a threat... Here we go.
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    Venezuela Set to Develop Nuclear Power With Russia
    Sunday, September 28, 2008


    Chavez said he accepted an offer from Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin for assistance in building a nuclear reactor.

    "Russia is ready to support Venezuela in the development of nuclear energy with peaceful purposes and we already have a commission working on it," Chavez said. "We are interested in developing nuclear energy."

    Putin offered Chavez assistance in developing nuclear energy during a meeting in the Russian city of Novo-Ogaryovo last week. The prime minister did not specify what kind of cooperation he could offer Venezuela, but Russia is aggressively promoting itself as a builder of nuclear power plants in developing nations.

    Russia has ramped up its cooperation with Venezuela since last month's war with Georgia, which badly damaged Moscow's already strained ties with the West, particularly the United States.

    During Chavez's visit to Russia last week, a Russian naval squadron sailed for the Caribbean Sea in preparation for joint exercises with Venezuela later this year — a move that appeared retaliatory after the U.S. sent warships to deliver aid to Georgia.

    The deployment is expected to represent the largest Russian naval maneuvers in the Caribbean — and perhaps the Western Hemisphere — since the Cold War.

    Chavez says that stronger ties with Russia will help build a multi-polar world — a term the two allies use to describe their shared opposition to what they claim is U.S. global domination.

    Since 2005, Venezuela has agreed to buy more than US$4.4 billion worth of weapons from Russia including fighter jets, combat helicopters, and 100,000 Kalashnikov assault rifles. And President Dmitry Medvedev has offered Chavez a loan to purchase additional weapons.

    Chavez argues the United States and European Union do not have the right to prevent developing countries from pursuing nuclear technology, and he has strongly defended Iran's nuclear program despite the Western powers' fear that Tehran may be building nuclear weapons.

    Before taking Russia up on its offer, Chavez had expressed interest in acquiring a nuclear reactor from Argentina and working with Iran, among other countries, to research nuclear energy.

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    McCain, is right... Barry just doesn't get it. If Venezuela is not as big a threat as say, the "Soviet Union" as he put (Freudian slip?), how about when they get Russia's help in our hemisphere?
     
    #1 IROC it, Sep 29, 2008
  2. London'sBurning

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    You act like a good President wouldn't change his stance once a situation like this arises. He won't be the second coming of Bush. A President is probably the most important figure in the United States but even the best President can accomplish very little without the right staff to push and adjust a situation accordingly if their original stance was wrong. I truly believe Obama won't pick a bunch of Yes Men like Bush and most likely McCain.
     
    #2 London'sBurning, Sep 29, 2008
  3. conquistador#11

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    :confused: what's the problem with that? Latin america has every right to fight terrorism too. Wake me up when venezuela invades another country in search of non- existing weapons. If anything, Colombia raiding into ecuador and violating international law was more of an act of war.
     
    #3 conquistador#11, Sep 29, 2008
  4. durvasa

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    It's funny how supporting nuclear energy was so important to the candidates during the debate, but it becomes a threat if another country in the hemisphere dares to develop it themselves. I understand the concerns there, but it's hard to deny the overt hypocrisy as well.
     
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  5. danny317

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    i think the problem is the fact that the fuel for some nuclear reactors can be used for bombs.

    also some of these countries refuse inspection from the iaea so the international community cant prevent proliferation of nuclear arms...

    if these countries were open to using designs in which fuel cant be used for bombs and international inspection, then nobody would have a problem with these countries developing their own nuclear power systems...
     
    #5 danny317, Sep 29, 2008
  6. A_3PO

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    Why does a country who's entire economy is producing oil need to develop nuclear power?
     
    #6 A_3PO, Sep 29, 2008
  7. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    because oil is an inefficient way to produce electricity, currently nuclear is probably the best option, as long as you know what you're doing. weslinder is a better expert on this, france is producing so much electricity with nuclear power they're selling it to their neighbors.
     
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  8. Lil Pun

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    HOORAY NUKES!
     
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  9. weslinder

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    Because their oil production has fallen like a rock because of a really weak technical workforce and resistance to help from foreign companies.

    It's not just them. Despite having great undeveloped offshore deposits and plenty of onshore deposits left, Mexico will become a net oil importer in a couple of years because they've had the same problems since nationalization. Venezuela has bought a little time by only partially nationalizing their oil industry.
     
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  10. weslinder

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    You're exactly right. Nuclear power takes a long-term commitment, because the capital investment is huge, but on a life-cycle cost, it's the cheapest energy available by far.
     
    #10 weslinder, Sep 29, 2008
  11. rhadamanthus

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    Before everyone jumps on the nuclear bandwagon...

    Nuclear power results in long (really long) waste storage issues.

    I support nuclear power, but only if the storage problem is solved (agreed upon) first.
     
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  12. Lil Pun

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    Yeah, that's one of the big drawbacks to nuke power. I would be lying if I didn't say that issue concerned me as well. I mean you have to worry about the safety and security of the storage. How much nuclear waste does the U.S. produce each year? I mean there is more than just power plants because hospitals, research facilities, etc. generate some too. Anybody know how much the U.S. produces each year?

    I remember thinking, why couldn't we just load the waste on a space capsule and blast it away. I know that brings in an even bigger potential problem if the carrier were to explode or be threatened but are there any other drawbacks?
     
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  13. Ottomaton

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    Just to be clear here, your position is that we can help all of Russia's direct neighbors, but Russia has to stay completely out of our entire hemisphere?
     
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  14. pirc1

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    Yes, because we are the United States of America!
     
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  15. rhadamanthus

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    Outrageously expensive.
     
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  16. pgabriel

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    they may not be in our hemisphere, but you can see them from alaska
     
    #16 pgabriel, Sep 29, 2008
  17. Rashmon

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    I have here in my hand a list of two hundred and five people that were known to the Secretary of State as being members of the Communist Party and who nevertheless are still working and shaping the policy of the State Department.

    Joseph R. McCarthy
     
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  18. Lil Pun

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    Really?
     
    #18 Lil Pun, Sep 29, 2008
  19. IROC it

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    Ding ding ding!
     
    #19 IROC it, Sep 29, 2008
  20. Bandwagoner

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    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


    We will never have a seriousl discussion again. Any point you ever bring up will be laughed at from this point on.
     
    #20 Bandwagoner, Sep 29, 2008
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