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Van Gundy just doesn't get it

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Old Man Rock, Nov 22, 2006.

  1. Old Man Rock

    Old Man Rock Contributing Member

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    Does he think it is just coincidence that when Billy went in the last game the Rockets went on a 9-1 run, when Vspan came in the 1st half tonight the Rockets went on a 11-2 run, when he came in the 2nd half the Rockets maintained a big league and when he exited the Rockets collapsed. Props to Luther for saving us from a loss but if not for the wizards pathetic shooting would have lost. Every team in the league understands when crunch time comes stuff the lane and make anyone else beat you besides Yao and Tmac. Someone else has to step up and Vspan can and will given the opportunity. Insanity is making the same mistakes and expecting different results. These games don't have to be close. Van Gundy doesn't get it!
     
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    Totally agree. I blame our players as well... but ultimately, in all these comebacks by the opposing team I believe we're getting out-coached. When they make changes, JVG doesn't counter with his own game plan. When the other team makes a strong push, this is when we need a Vspan type of player to match the other teams increas in intensity. Also, if the players aren't getting the ball down low in the 4th, then they should come out for players who can. I mean how many field goals did Yao have in the fourth? come on JVG, open your eyes. Sure Rafer's 3 redeemed his play in the fourth, but he shouldn't have been taking the prior 3 bricks in the first place. Still, i'm happy with any win... go rockets
     
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    Great. Another "JVG sucks" thread.
     
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    I have a hard time to believe VSpan played well and yet he only got half of the mins Alston got.

    Didn't JVG say every one should earn their minutes based on the performance? VSpan deserved to play more today!

    Lets be honest, JVG doesn't trust rookies. Everything else is excuse.
     
  5. TeamUSA

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    Are you suggesting to start Span instead of Rafer?
     
  6. Amel

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    his time will come

    I really do not want to see howard on the floor

    chucky for 48 minutes, yes!
     
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    Becuz JVGoofy does suck! And he needs 2 bench Skip2another loss Alston during crucial times, like the 4th quarter! The ROXS just got lucky, but not against top teams like the SA Spurts! They need to play hi energy players, like VSpan. :)
     
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    Wizards run was mostly due to the fact that the Rockets were ice cold on open jumpers. The Rockets were not playing too badly... they did not allow the Wiz to shoot well in the 4th (7 for 19, including a 3 pt bank shot by Arenas) and the Rockets got some good looks. N


    Both Alston and Head, the two guys who Spanoulis would have replaced, hit big shots down the stretch. You can argue Spanoulis would have been better-- I was impressed with him, but keeping the faith in Luther and Rafer worked out well enough in the end. I'm sure this helps to develop Luther's confidence, too.
     
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    not necessarily starting, well at least not righ now
    but as a coach, JVG should know to make some change when things happen like tonight, i.e. Rafer as he played tonight should've been benched in 4Q!
     
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    "Rafer worked out well" just because of the last minute 3 pointer?
    Could you tell me another starting PG who could've done worse?

     
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    Done worse in terms of what? Not hit a big shot down the stretch?

    Rafer's shooting wasn't on tonight, especially on his drives, but he had a solid game.

    Just because a player missed more shots than usual doesn't mean he had a horrible game.
     
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    starbury
     
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    Come on. Is it so difficult to admit Rafer had a horrible game?
    What else did he do right, except that last shot?
    If JVG was any good, Alston should've been benched long before the end. He shouldn't have had the chance to make that shot in the first place. It's pure lucky that he made it after he missed tons.
     
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    Van Gundy "doesn't get it" because he doesn't want to play a rookie in crunch time when the game is on the line?

    While Rafer hasn't played well, you don't bench a veteran guard for a rookie who is playing in his 2nd game of the regular season. Especially when the rookie doesn't shoot the ball all that well regularly and can be turnover prone.

    Out of all the leads we have blown this season, we've only lost one of them. We need to let these players learn to play better down the stretch because we'll need to rely on them come push and shove.

    I hope VSPAN gets more minutes and it looks like he'll earn more, but don't blame JVG for wanting to have his starting PG in the 4th quarter when the game is on the line.
     
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    Uh, you can't have a solid game when you have the 4th quarter alston did. If he hadn't hit the three, he would have been one of the goats of the game for his play in the 4th. Bad turnovers, a horrible foul, taking ill advised shots were his quarter until the three, which redeemed himself.
     
  18. robywang

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    I believe he can make more 3 pointers if left open.
     
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    What turnovers?
     
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    We might not win the game if it wasn't for that last shot, it's absolutely ridiculous to say he shouldn't have had the chance to make the shot in the first place. Rafer's our 2nd best 3 point shooter behing Luther (out of guys that play a lot of minutes).
     

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