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V-Span - what will he become?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Jan 19, 2007.

  1. DaDakota

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    A good poster in another thread brought up an interesting point, he said no one is doubting whether V-Span will develop into an NBA player, they just don't think he is ready now.

    While I agree that he is not totally ready, I think that he will become ready faster with some playing time at his natural position.

    However, I am curious as to what people think he will develop into, and please post how long you think it will take him to reach his potential.

    I would rather not rehash old arguments in here, but would like to see what everyone thinks about him and how long everyone thinks it will take him to get there.

    DD
     
  2. Nick

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    "a good poster"... is that me?

    Thanks. ;)
     
  3. DaDakota

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    Yes it was you......you brought up an interesting point and one in which I wanted to get people's opinions.

    Personally, I think it will take him 3 years to reach his potential as a player that will be a marginal All-Star.....Tony Parker level.

    However, it will take longer if JVG remains.

    :D

    DD
     
  4. Blake

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    I think he has the quickness and the smarts to be a solid, but not great, NBA player. I think that his main problem is that his shot is so shaky. He can distribute well (though he makes some bone-headed decisions...chalk that up to being a rook) and his hustle is a plus.

    If he can develop a three point shot and hit more jumpers, I think he can definitely be an upgrade over Rafer.

    I think that he needs this season (with some more PT in blowouts) and the offseason and next year he will get some serious PT.

    I think he'll be good in two years...showing lots of improvement next season when he is actually ready to play.
     
  5. YallMean

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    What level will he become? or What level do you expect him to become?
     
  6. DaDakota

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    Well, it has to be about what you personally expect because what level he becomes will only be proven out over time.

    DD
     
  7. GRENDEL

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    I think he can become a good starter. His shot needs improvement and some of his decision making but overall there is a lot of good potential. I think it'll take him around 3-4 years to reach his potential
     
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    I figure it will take another year after this one before he becomes a solid player. As this year progresses and next year, he will adjust and start become a main part of the rotation, then in a couple of years (say by 08-09) he will be a "good" player, possibly starter.
     
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    @ duh

    you are out your everlovin mind. tony parker? No.

    V-span will be a hard nosed, good ball player at best.

    My concern is his shot. For guards, he probably has one of the worst shots in the league.

    At his age, you should be fine-tuning, not learning how to shoot.

    What he DOES have is an edge, and toughness. He is a competitor. He has spirit. I think Boki had that, as well. That is a great quality to have, but without all around game....it is what it is.
     
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    I voted "average" simply because with the way the team is set up right now he's not going to get a chance to play anytime soon. The lack of playing time can be big confidence killer combined with his already shaky, up & down play he's displayed up to this point, I don't think JVG trusts him.

    I mean, let's be honest here....what exactly has V-Span even showed us so far? That a foul prone, turnover machine that can't shoot but will come in to provide some energy, make a couple decent passes and show signs of becomming a quality defender can become an instant fan favorite? This guy is the new Boki -- the guy that hasn't proved he can be trusted in the rotation yet everybody on the BBS insists he should be playing.
     
  11. DaDakota

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    He shot fine last year from Mid Range, which is Tony Parker's strength too.

    I think the reason V-Span's shot has been bad is that he is clearly NOT a good DEEP 3 ball shooter.....if we let him work the middle then his percentages should climb, at least I would hope they would.

    DD
     
  12. Nick

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    Spanoulis could end up having a game similiar to Kevin Johnson's (albeit without as much quickness and explosiveness).

    Actually, the only comparison is that KJ's shot was pretty shaky when he first came in the leauge... and teams dared him to shoot. After he worked on his shot, he was able to showcase his awesome penetration skills (Which V-span has).

    KJ, however, could finish above the rim... not sure V-span has those hops.
     
  13. ivanyy2000

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    He has absolutely no chance to be a Tony Parker like player. Let us be real.

    But I have no doubt that he can be a quality backup or even starter if given the opportunities to develop. Just like Laker's Jordan Farmar, Sasha Vujacic or even Smush Parker. I refuse to believe a guy who dropped 24pts on Dream team will be anything less than these three players I listed above.

    He will be a valuable piece. He just need an opportunity to play and gain his confidence and be comfortable.
     
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    I see flashes of him being an ok guard, but nothing that shows that he fits into the nba game yet. Hopefully its just getting use to the team.

    In the games I've seen him play, he looks lost on offense with or without the ball. His shot is too flaky to give him time. Wish someone on the rockets would mention how he plays in practice.
     
  15. studogg

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    another mythical creature in the land of dadakota. prancing and dancing about his merry way as he dishes assist after assist and drains another huge bucket. reunited with his good friends of lore, spanoulis, boki and langhi rule all of basketball land with their supreme coach dadakota. full rotations of 20 men play sparing minutes as they avoid all injuries and no one is ever unhappy for their supreme coach would never chastise these professionals.
     
  16. DaDakota

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    Stud,

    This obsession you have with me has to stop, my wife is getting jealous !

    I do find it funny that people bring up players I like and fail to mention the Yao Mings or the Shane Battiers or others that I wanted prior to them getting here.

    But this thread is not about whether you like my posts or takes, it is about V-Span.

    Just please stick to the topic, it is stuff like this that derails threads and gets people like you complaining about the GARM.

    What do you think of V-Span? Do you think he will develop?

    DD
     
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    v-span can def be a good NBA player.....all that is needed is time (to gain confidence) to learn his teammates (kinda goes with time) and to practice that outside shot......besides that he has all the tools :)
     
  18. DaDakota

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    The funny thing is that Tony Parker was a scrawny, bad shooting, 19 year old player when he joined the Spurs. His biggest asset was his lightning quickness.

    Popovich instantly started him, knowing that he would struggle, big time, but also knowing that by playing with the better players on his team he would improve immensly.

    Tony Parker is now a very good player because he got the chance and with it his confidence.

    Now, I am not saying start V-Span, but I do see similarities in TP and V-Span's games coming into the NBA.

    DD
     
  19. superden

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    I think V-Span has potential to be a quality starter. I wouldn't be surprise if he became more, but I haven't seen enough of him. Right now he is too turnover prone and does not have the range for the NBA. I think he needs to get use to NBA basketball. He has the foundation to be something really special (we saw what he did against the USA). Dare I say...maybe we need a Jerry Sloan type coach to develop talent? :eek: He developed Arroyo and IIRC he hasn't been playing as well as he did in Utah. It did take Sloan a year to develop him though.
     
  20. studogg

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    I can't help it. You're so damn hot!

    Btw, I, as many others, have followed him since we drafted him. He has excelled at every level, even when he wasn't expected to get many minutes. I have fairly high expectations for him. However, I believe that VanGundy is bringing him along properly by trying to teach him the nba game during practice and it will pay dividends in the end.

    I do believe that at this point in time (and referencing what i have seen of him in game action) he is too erratic for the NBA game unless he were on a bad team that could afford him minutes.
     

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