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USDA Clears Chinese Chicken Processors To Ship To US

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Andre0087, Sep 16, 2013.

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  1. Andre0087

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    WASHINGTON — Despite China’s disgusting food-safety record, the feds for the first time are allowing American chickens to be sent to China for processing — and then imported back to the United States.

    The prospect of US grocery stores selling Chinese chicken nuggets laced with insecticide or substituted with rat meat prompted Sen. Chuck Schumer yesterday to demand aggressive action by US Department of Agriculture food inspectors.

    “Given Chinese processors’ poor track record with regard to food-safety standards, the USDA should be taking every possible step to ensure that the chicken that ends up on our plates and in our McNuggets is safe,” Schumer (D-NY) said at a press conference.

    He rattled off a nauseating list of Chinese food scandals, including arsenic found in calamari and rice, pasta infested with maggots, pumpkin seeds mixed with glass chips and rat meat sold as lamb.

    “And to top it off, on-site US inspectors will not be required at these sites so there is simply no guarantee that food safety laws are up to United States standards,” Schumer said.

    The chicken also won’t have to be labeled as coming from China.
    “Consumers won’t even know whether or not the chicken they are eating has been processed in China,” Schumer said.

    http://nypost.com/2013/09/15/schumer-blasts-usdas-decision-to-allow-us-chicken-processing-in-china/

    Why the hell did we agree to this? I might just stop eating chicken altogether unless they start labeling where our foods are processed/imported from.
     
    #1 Andre0087, Sep 16, 2013
  2. Andre0087

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    So I guess no one gives a **** what we eat and where it comes from...unless I missed that thread.
     
    #2 Andre0087, Sep 16, 2013
  3. bigtexxx

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    I have a friend who used to be a food salesman to restaurants in Houston, and he said he would NEVER eat at mom and pop Chinese places in Houston due to how disgusting things were in the back and kitchen.
     
    #3 bigtexxx, Sep 16, 2013
  4. NotInMyHouse

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    Why are we exporting chicken to be processed and the re-imported? Is there a chicken processing shortage or a chicken population explosion?
     
    #4 NotInMyHouse, Sep 16, 2013
  5. Dairy Ashford

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    Assuming nobody dies from funky Chinese chicken disease after tens of millions of units are skinned, rendered, re-packaged and consumed next year; then yeah, everyone moves on. Except of course that entire portion of the Southern and Midwestern blue-collar job market. Yeah I guess from a labor standpoint this could get ugly.

    I'm just fascinated that the labor savings are large enough that round-trip ocean transport isn't cost prohibitive.
     
    #5 Dairy Ashford, Sep 16, 2013
  6. Andre0087

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    Maybe because we can't help but export every job we can think of to the commies even if we don't save money and hell not to mention the many diseases that originate in their poultry industry.
     
    #6 Andre0087, Sep 16, 2013
  7. shastarocket

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    This cannot possibly be true

    C.R.E.A.M.
     
    #7 shastarocket, Sep 16, 2013
  8. Andre0087

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    It can't be, I just don't believe that companies would save enough money to make it worthwhile, just logically don't see it.

    It may have something to do with this...

    "W.T.O. Backs U.S. Appeal on Chicken Tariffs in China
    By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
    Published: August 2, 2013

    The World Trade Organization ruled in favor of the United States on Friday in a longstanding dispute over allegations that China unfairly imposed tariffs that restricted American poultry exports. The United States’ appeal to the organization dates to 2011, after China said that America had engaged in dumping and had imposed tariffs on imports of so-called broiler products, which include most chicken items but not live chickens. China said American chicken producers benefited from subsidies and were exporting their goods to China at unfairly low prices. The trade organization found that China had breached its obligations and recommended that China comply with its rules. It did not specify the actions that China must take, however, and China can appeal. Officials at the Chinese Embassy in Washington could not immediately be reached."
     
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  9. Andre0087

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    Yea money talks, I may not see how it works at the moment but somebody somewhere is getting paid, big time.
     
    #9 Andre0087, Sep 16, 2013
  10. RedRedemption

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    Great. Just what we need.
    More morons.
     
    #10 RedRedemption, Sep 16, 2013
  11. CCorn

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    Tyson is happy.

    I know with fish, imports are inspected much more than domestic products. I imagine they will do the same to ensure quality.
     
    #11 CCorn, Sep 16, 2013
  12. NotInMyHouse

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    #12 NotInMyHouse, Sep 16, 2013
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    It's about beef exports apparently.
     
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  14. Andre0087

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    That's the best you can come up with? Name calling...lol...you give your intelligence level away with each word.
     
    #14 Andre0087, Sep 16, 2013
  15. B-Bob

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    I think you misread that. RedRedemption was just bemoaning the moron import part of the new international shipping agreement.
     
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  16. Nook

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    This is a really bad idea... and the quality and safety of our food continues to fall.
     
    #16 Nook, Sep 16, 2013
  17. B-Bob

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    Moron cooked in a wok with oil and chopped ginger isn't that bad.

    But overall, I agree with you. If you live in the 1% can you buy safe food. Screw the rest of us.
     
    #17 B-Bob, Sep 16, 2013
  18. Andre0087

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    I'm sorry then, just upset at this entire situation.
     
    #18 Andre0087, Sep 16, 2013
  19. shastarocket

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    So, a bit more information:

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/09/will-you-know-when-your-chicken-is-from-china-96753.html

    The country of origin labeling law (COOL) does not regulate cooked meat. What this means is that if the chicken is raised in the US, exported and cooked in China, and imported back -> it can say that it is from the US.

    However, this does not hold true if the cooked chicken undergoes "substantial transformation" into a new article of commerce, before being imported back to the US. This includes deboning, skinning and breading. So if the chicken is turned into nuggets in China, it must be labeled as coming from China.

    HOWEVER, a loophole exists because the COOL only requires a label to be placed on the original packaging that the product is shipped in. Therefore, the chicken could be processed in any way and repackaged in the US, allowing it to go without a country of origin label altogether.

    http://journalstar.com/business/loc...cle_e339f337-3cae-580a-b671-9e343c96f7f6.html

    A last bit of speculative info: Ever since China banned US beef in 2003 after the mad cow scare, they have been importing from New Zealand, Canada, Australia and Uruguay. Chinese Beef imports are up 931% from 1 year ago. Perhaps providing this consolation will promote China to relax these laws.

    NotInMyHouse was right.

    Regardless:

    http://www.economist.com/news/busin...-americas-biggest-pork-producer-pigs-will-fly

    Worth noting: In what is the largest ever takeover of a US company by a Chinese company, Shuanghui International, the world’s largest pork producer, purchased Smithfield Foods for $4.7 billion in May 2013. Although no chinese pork will be imported, Shanghui plans on exporting Smithfield's products.
     
    #19 shastarocket, Sep 17, 2013
  20. pippendagimp

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    funny thing is the chicken i've eaten at restaurants in china was a lot tastier than what u get in the states
     
    #20 pippendagimp, Sep 17, 2013
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