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USA Loses to Greece?

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  1. magnomonkey

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    http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/wbc2006/news/story?id=2568543
    Updated: Sep. 1, 2006, 9:21 AM ET
    Upset special: Greece stuns U.S. in FIBA semisAssociated Press


    SAITAMA, Japan -- Fed up with its recent failures, the United States assembled a new program with a new plan.

    The end result was all too familiar.

    Sheridan: U.S. fails again
    Team USA lost because it keeps changing its roster, never developing the chemistry and familiarity that the best international teams have developed.
    The Greeks had two or three plays that worked over and over and over again, just like Argentina's plays worked two years ago in Athens, and Team USA didn't have the cohesion a team needs to play the halfcourt defense required to win in these tournaments.

    • To read more of Chris Sheridan's analysis from the FIBA World Championship, click here.


    Greece used a sizzling stretch of shooting across the middle two quarters to turn a 12-point deficit into a 14-point lead, and beat the Americans 101-95 Friday in the semifinals of the FIBA World Championship.

    "To lose any game is a shock to us," U.S. star Carmelo Anthony said. "We came in with the mentality to win the game and the gold medal."

    Instead, the best Anthony can do now is add another bronze to his collection.

    Greece (8-0) can earn a world title to go with the European championship it won in 2005 with a victory over Spain in the gold medal game Sunday. Spain (8-0) beat Argentina 75-74 on Friday night.



    "They played like a champion plays," U.S. forward Shane Battier said of Greece.

    The Americans will have to wait at least two more years to remember what that feels like.

    Done in again by their inept 3-point shooting -- and they weren't much better from the foul line -- the Americans will fall short of a championship in a major international tournament for the third straight time since winning gold at the 2000 Olympics.

    The Greeks -- with no current NBA players on their roster -- danced in a circle at halfcourt after their victory.



    "Big players play big games," said guard Theodoros Papaloukas, the MVP of the European final who had 12 assists Friday. "And today I think we played very good."

    The U.S. (7-1) will return to the court Saturday against Argentina, hoping to match the bronze medal it left Athens with in 2004.



    AP Photo/Dusan Vranic
    They danced at midcourt (and in Greece) after beating Team USA.
    "Those guys are hurting," said USA Basketball managing director Jerry Colangelo, who was put in charge of the program after a sixth-place finish in the 2002 worlds preceded the disappointment in Athens. "It's probably a better thing we have to come back tomorrow and play again instead of sitting on this for two days."

    Anthony scored 27 points for the Americans, who couldn't overcome their 32 percent shooting from 3-point range or 59 percent from the foul line. Dwyane Wade added 19 and LeBron James had 17, but the three U.S. captains were unable to make up for their disappointment from Athens.

    Vassilis Spanoulis, bound for the Houston Rockets, scored 22 points for Greece. Mihalis Kakiouzis added 15 and 6-foot-10 Sofoklis Schortsianitis -- nicknamed "Baby Shaq" -- added 14, shooting 6-of-7.

    "Basketball is not just about dribbling and shooting," said Greece coach Panagiotis Yannakis, who took a congratulatory call from Prime Minister Costas Karamanlis after the game. "You can come off the bench with a clear mind and give the best of your talent and that's what our players did today."



    Continuously burning the Americans' poor defense against the pick-and-roll, the Greeks shot 63 percent (35-of-56) from the field and made 31 of 44 shots over the final three periods.

    "We didn't make the right adjustments," U.S. center Chris Bosh said. "They ran the same play. We made it easy for them."

    The U.S. hasn't even played for a world championship since winning the last of its three titles in Toronto in 1994. Mike Krzyzewski -- who was looking for gold after winning bronze with the 1990 team -- and a few American players walked to midcourt to congratulate the Greeks, while most of the U.S. roster quickly headed to the locker room.

    The Americans, who put together a national team program this year for the first time, now will be forced to qualify for the 2008 Olympics next summer in the FIBA Americas tournament in Venezuela.

    "This one hurts," said Colangelo, who assembled the team. "We had the gold medal as our goal and anything short is disappointing. We go back to work and get ready for qualifying next summer."

    Greece celebrates
    ATHENS, Greece -- Thousands of Greeks gathered in the streets, waved flags and honked car horns to celebrate the 101-95 upset victory over the United States.
    "This is the biggest thing we've ever done," former Greek star Panayiotis Fasoulas said. "The Americans are the most talented players but we have a better team. Right now we're the best in the world. ... Beating the U.S. is more important than the final."

    Prime Minister Costas Karamanlis cut short scheduled meetings to watch the end of the game and expressed gratitude to the Greek team.

    "I wonder if a 'thank you' is enough, but I feel the need to say it twice over to [coach] Panagiotis Yannakis and his guys," Karamanlis said in a statement.

    Chanting "Lift the Cup," fans waved Greece's blue-and-white flags, blared car horns as midday parties sprang up in Athens and Thessaloniki, Greece's second-largest city.

    Traffic information screens flashed the final score, as motorists abandoned their cars to join celebrating crowds. Teenagers set off firecrackers and waved flags on mo-peds as they headed to the center of Athens.

    -- The Associated Press


    The U.S. seemed in control after Joe Johnson's 3-pointer gave the Americans a 33-21 lead with about 6½ minutes left in the second quarter. It was around then that James told his teammates on the bench: "They don't know what to do."



    Well, they figured it out in a hurry.

    Greece scored nine straight points, pulling within three on Papaloukas' drive with 3:51 left and forcing Krzyzewski to call a timeout. Dwight Howard converted a three-point play, but the Greeks answered with a 13-2 surge, featuring eight points from Schortsianitis, to open a 43-38 lead and force Krzyzewski to call a second timeout.

    Greece hit nine straight shots -- its only miss in the last 5 minutes was a heave from halfcourt as time expired -- and led 45-41 at halftime. The Greeks shot 56 percent (15-of-27) in the half.

    The Americans were 2-of-10 from behind the arc -- after going 10-for-40 in their quarterfinal victory over Germany -- and trailed at the break for only the second time in the tournament. Italy had a nine-point cushion in a group play game.

    Greece kept it up in the third quarter, hitting 14 of its 18 shots, including all four 3-pointers in the first 5 minutes. Kostas Tsartsaris' 3-pointer with 5:45 left in the period gave the Greeks a 65-51 lead -- the biggest deficit the U.S. faced in the tournament.

    After shooting 4-of-12 in the first quarter, Greece was 25-of-33 (76 percent) in the second and third and led 77-65 heading to the final period.

    "It seemed like they didn't miss the whole third quarter," Wade said.

    Anthony, Wade and James combined for the first 18 U.S. points in the quarter, and the Americans eventually got as close as 95-91 on Kirk Hinrich's 3 with 36 seconds to play. But the U.S. missed its final two attempts from behind the arc, capping a 9-of-28 night.

    Copyright 2006 by The Associated Press
     
  2. magnomonkey

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    The Greeks -- with no current NBA players on their roster -- danced in a circle at halfcourt after their victory.

    V-Span isnt an NBA Player?!?!?
     
  3. Champ06

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    Not yet. He has not even play a game in NBA or step on the court of NBA.
     
  4. ymc

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    Well, he will be one next season, so he is not a current NBA player
     
  5. A-Train

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    Well, considering he's never played an NBA game before, I would have to say no. You could technically say that he's an NBA player since he signed an NBA contract, but that's just splitting hairs.

    The article did say that he was bound for the Houston Rockets, so he got some props, at least...

    Anyways, it was the same old story for the US. No pick and roll defense, and based on KillBill's peformance, I doubt they played much on the ball perimeter defense. Plus, they STILL have no clue how to attack a zone. If their three pointers aren't falling, they can't get it into the low post.

    Oh by the way, TeamUSA...still think that these guys are a "dream team"??

    [​IMG]

    THESE guys could come out of retirement and beat down the current US National team without even a practice...
     
  6. 3814

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    When are the Utah Jazz or Toronto Raptors going to hire the Greek coach?
     
  7. JuanValdez

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    I can still enjoy the US team losing. Hopefully, this embarassing loss will make sure we take international competition seriously leading up to the Olympics. I'm glad they finally got a long-term program put together, but it's good to have tangible reminders that these guys need time playing together to develop enough chemistry to defeat the international powerhouses.

    I also like that Greece takes the competition so seriously. Even if we won gold, do you think anyone in the US would be honking horns and dancing in the street?
     
  8. SamFisher

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    Welcome to 2004.
     
  9. KaiSeR SoZe

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    can't believe we lost!

    we suck!!!
     
  10. DaDakota

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    We don't have any bigs that can shoot......that is all the international guys have....the pick and roll at the top.....

    We can't counter it with a similar setup, nor do we have a dominant low post player either.

    DD
     
  11. KaiSeR SoZe

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    We had Brad Miller though and he can shoot and he's a decent low post guy..

    still though, we have NBA stars and we can't beat some of these Euro teams and it boggles the mind!!

    WE SUCK!!!
     
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    Our NBA players count on preferential treatment from refs. They don't get this in international play. They don't have to score from the outside in the NBA because they know they'll get a foul call driving to the hoop if they miss. I sure wish the NBA would change this! It would help the league alot!
     
  13. TracyMcCrazyeye

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    omg we lost FAILURE
     
  14. JumpMan

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    It's not a failure, we can still win bronze, and I think we will.
     
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    Brad Miller has had his ass rooted to the bench for pretty much the whole tournament.
     
  16. ubigred

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    When the tourney is over international players go home to modest livings...while the USA team goes home to million dollar cars , mansions, etc.

    Big deal who cares!!!!!
     
  17. thelasik

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    what ticks me off the most is that this makes chris sheridan of ESPN look like a genius. he has been talking all along about how team usa doesnt have chemistry, needs 3 pt shooters...etc. i was really hoping the US would win the gold just so the guy could shut up.
     
  18. aussie rocket

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    is this comment funny to anyone but the other Australians on the boards?
     
  19. lalala902102001

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    Based on what I've seen from the Argentina game, I would say it's a 50/50 chance.
     
  20. SamFisher

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    USA didn't lose to greece, Agassi beat Baghdadititititis
     

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