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US may use massive new bomb during Iraq campaign

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, Mar 9, 2003.

  1. KingCheetah

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    U.S. May Use Massive New Bomb in Iraq —

    If the United States goes to war with Iraq, it may debut a huge new conventional bomb. Called the "Massive Ordnance Air Burst" (MOAB) bomb, it is a larger, guided version of the Vietnam-era "Daisy Cutter." Like the Daisy Cutter, the MOAB would be dropped from the back of a C-130 transport aircraft, but unlike its predecessor, the MOAB would not be attached to a parachute and is equipped with a satellite guidance system. It could possibly be used for attacks against underground hardened defense facilities, or massed formations of enemy armor. Sources estimate that the MOAB is a 21,000-pound bomb; the Daisy Cutter is roughly 15,000 pounds.
    The MOAB's massive explosive punch, sources say, is similar to a small nuclear weapon.
    It is intended to obliterate a command center hidden in tunnels and bunkers or a concentration of Iraqi tanks.
    Whatever the target, it must be far from cities where civilians might be hurt. But one important aspect of using this type of weapon, sources say, will be psychological impact on enemy troops. It is intended to terrorize Iraqi troops, drastically reducing their desire to continue the fight.

    America's latest war toy :eek:
     
  2. DrewP

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    They are already using this in Afghanistan.
     
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    "Sources estimate that the MOAB is a 21,000-pound bomb; the Daisy Cutter is roughly 15,000 pounds."

    They just used the old Vietnam era "Daisy Cutter" and 5000 pound "Bunker Busters" in Afghanistan. The MOAB has never been used in battle situations.
     
  4. treeman

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    The MOAB has not been used in battle yet.
     
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    I saw a news story on this...its supposed to crumble and collapse underground complexes which their military leadership hides out in.

    Apparently they can drop this in an area where they think there are underground tunnels and watch as the sand and rock sinks into the tunnels like a spider web affect from the point of explosion.

    All those tunnel complexes that we couldn't touch in the first Persian Gulf war are not so untouchable now, and will probably cut off the Iraqis entire chain of command.
     
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    I hear the MOAB hasn't been used in battle, yet. :)
     
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    Treeman,

    Is this the bomb that creates the mushroom cloud to intimidate and scare the hell out of the enemy?
     
  8. MadMax

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    is this the one that's never been used before?


    ;)
     
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    It appears the MOAB may in the hands of some local lawyers intent on blowing up unwanted threads... :p :)
     
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    Did they mention how many of these bad boys we got?
     
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    http://www.strategypage.com/gallery/default.asp?target=moab.htm

    Here is a link with some pictures and more info. The military is replacing all of the Daisy Cutter bombs with the MOAB so more than likely we have more than we'll ever need. The fact that this thing must be dropped from a C-130 makes me think that its true purpose is intimidation. For a lumbering C-130 to go in to an area all hostile AA weapons must be destroyed, because a C-130 is a flying barn. There are easier ways to root out enemy forces in underground bunkers than dropping 21,000 pound bombs. Comparing this thing to a nuclear bomb is also far-fetched. One hundred tons of military grade explosives will yield .02 kilotons of explosive power (MOAB is 10.5 tons). The yield of a small fission nuke will produce 10-20 kilotons of power.
     
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    I remember hearing about this bomb on MSNBC. It indeed does produce a mushroom cloud which looks like the real mccoy to your novice that doesn't know the difference between a MOAB and a nuke.

    Not sure if this has been used in battle before...
     
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    Is this that huge bomb that some call Barkleys Butt?
     
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    You should head over to Iraq and tell some more jokes the country would be in ruins. :rolleyes:
     
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    i'm not sure...as i understand it, it's never been used before.

    (sorry..had to get at least one more of these in) ;)
     
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    I went to Moab once. Gorgeous scenery, but this damned cafe there served me a warm beer on a hot day. I'll never forgive or forget that awful beer.
     
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    i need to buy you a COLD beer sometime..you're one funny cat.
     
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    I read the other day that the mayor of Moab has written letters petitioning the military to change the acronym of the bomb, as he feels it will add a negative connotation to his town's name.
     
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    Be glad you were able to visit before the controversy starting brewing:

    Utah town of Moab shuns link with new bomb

    The tiny town of Moab, Utah, has asked US President George W Bush not to use the acronym MOAB for a new bomb because it could damage the image of the city, best known for outdoor recreation.

    "We realise that it is an acronym, but we are still concerned about the effects it may have on our community. Moab relies on tourism both domestic and foreign and has worked for many years and spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to create an image that 'Moab' is a destination," a letter from the Grand County Council said.

    ...;) :D
     
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    Wait. Is there really a letter or not? It's hilarious either way.

    Madmax, I'll take you up on that cold beer some time, but if we talk politics, we're likely to create our own MOAB-type of explosion!:)
     

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