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Unstoppable Stoudemire scores 50 as Suns beat Trail Blazers

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  1. tim562

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    http://www.sportsline.com/nba/gamecenter/recap/NBA_20050102_POR@PHO

    Unstoppable Stoudemire scores 50 as Suns beat Trail Blazers
    Jan. 2, 2005
    SportsLine.com wire reports


    PHOENIX -- Amare Stoudemire scored a career-high 50 points, including nine straight during a decisive 12-2 Phoenix run early in the fourth quarter, and the Suns beat the Portland Trail Blazers 117-98 Sunday night.

    The Suns have the NBA's best record at 26-4 and have won 22 of their last 24 games, including eight straight at home.

    Quentin Richardson added 20 points, capping the key fourth-quarter burst with a 3-pointer, and Shawn Marion and Joe Johnson each scored 15.

    Darius Miles led Portland with 25 points, Zach Randolph had 22 points and 14 rebounds, and Shareef Abdur-Rahim finished with 14 points and 10 rebounds.

    Stoudemire, who had 20 points in the final period, shot 20-of-27 from the field and 10-of-17 from the foul line in amassing the highest point total by a Phoenix player since Tony Delk scored 53 against Sacramento in a 121-117 overtime loss Feb. 2, 2001. Stoudemire's previous high was 38, against Minnesota in the 2002-2003 season and against New Orleans this season.

    In Suns' history, only Tom Chambers, with 60 and 56, and Delk have scored more than Stoudemire, while Cliff Robinson also had 50.

    Phoenix led only 83-81 before Stoudemire began his late run. By the time he and Richardson finished the Suns' surge, Phoenix was safely ahead 95-83.

    After falling behind 30-22 in an unusual first period, the fast-paced Suns matched a season high with 41 points in the second quarter and led 63-56 at halftime.

    Stoudemire was nearly unstoppable in the first half, scoring 26 points on 11-of-15 shooting, including five dunks.

    In the opening period, dominated by the Blazers' front line, only Stoudemire (12) and Richardson (10) scored for Phoenix. Those two sharpshooters combined to hit 10-of-14 field goal attempts. The rest of the team was 0-for-9.

    But in the second period, the Suns' took over with their running game, outscoring the Trail Blazers 10-0 on fast-break points and hitting 64 percent (16-of-25) of their shots.

    In addition to Stoudemire's 16 points in the second quarter, Marion chipped in with 10.

    Stoudemire took only two shots in the third quarter and scored four points, but seven consecutive Phoenix points by Johnson late in the period kept the Suns ahead 83-79 heading into the fourth quarter. Randolph, Portland's big man, failed to score, attempting only one shot.


    Notes
    Portland's Theo Ratliff, the league's fifth-leading shot-blocker, and Phoenix's Leandro Barbosa, the Suns' No. 2 point guard, were late pregame scratches. Ratliff missed his second straight game because of bursitis in his left shoulder and Barbosa was out with chicken pox. Barbosa also will not make the trip with the Suns for games at Minnesota on Tuesday and at Houston on Wednesday. ... Randolph is one of five players in the league averaging at least 20 points and 10 rebounds per game. The others are Minnesota's Kevin Garnett, Dallas' Dirk Nowitzki, San Antonio's Tim Duncan and Miami's Shaquille O'Neal. ... Phoenix needs only three more victories to equal its total of 29 from last season.


    Well, lets get ready for Phoenix on Wed
     
  2. steddinotayto

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    even though Zach Randolph ain't exactly a defensive beast, this is impressive. he certainly went bananas. 20/27 fgs? very yaoming-esque in terms of accuracy
     
  3. dumbholly

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    gonna be a good game on wednesday
     
  4. bhanchod

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    as true as that may be, i belive amare has had a better fg % all season so far.
     
  5. dharocks

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    It would be interesting to see what % of Amare's shots come off of direct assists vs. what he's able to do in the low post on his own.
     
  6. Stack24

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    Yeah Amare is at 58 percent (many dunks and layups for him) Yao is at 52 Percent...
     
  7. aaaa

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    Man, 20/27... :eek:

    Nothing else to say ... that's pretty impressive.
     
  8. KeepKenny

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    Man the Blazers were playing some bad defense from all the highlights they showed. Amare just running down the center of the court untouched, receiving the ball, and jamming with authority. He's also great at running the pick and roll. You gotta give him his props because he made at least one jumpshot to give him 50. Zach Randolph is quickly becoming quite a joke.
     
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    I think it is more notable that Barbosa missed the game with chicken pox. Is that an NBA first?
     
  10. arno_ed

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    stoudemire is a verry fast and quick player, for his size it is unbelievable. He is very good. I'm really impressed with him. He is the best player in his draft so far(yes even better then Yao, who has the talent, but needs to get more agressive)
     
  11. steddinotayto

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    amare CAN post up and do have some moves. I watched the PHOvsUTAH and the PHOvsSEA games and Amare showed to me that he's quuuuuuuuicccck when he's posting up. When he gets the ball down low *boom* spin move. Either it ends up as a facial on his defender or he's at the line.

    58%...52%....i'm just remembering the good ole days when it looked like Yao couldn't miss.:D
     
  12. m_cable

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    I think that's the main difference between Amare and Yao right now. Amare is always looking to score and makes his move right away. Yao almost always will take his time, to see if the double is going to come so that he can pass out of it. When Yao makes his move right away, he can usually get an open look every time.

    Seems like the tantilization of Yao's passing ability is becoming more of a detriment. If he wasn't looking to play like a Walton or Sabonis, he could be playing like Kareem. Instead, he's in this no-man's land fumbling about for his identity and getting stripped by guards when he takes too long dribbling the ball.
     
  13. steddinotayto

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    I think the problem with him is that he's not posting waaay down low. I mean like Shaq-area low. If he was nearer to the basket, all it would take is an inside pass, turn and dunk. Don't even need to dribble, back up, and shoot and turn around jumper. And it's not like they would foul him on purpose like they do on Shaq since Yao shoots fts at a good %
     
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    Bingo!

    That's the reason, I think, if we ran more it wouldn't hurt yao like most people think it would because it would be alot easier for him to get his postion closer to the bucket to recieve an entry pass for a point blank dunk. oooops! I mean lay up .
     
  15. munco

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    some of you guys aren't giving Amare his due. he's been playing awesome this year and his game has improved a lot this year. although he's got freakish athleticism, he also is reported to have a great work ethic. kinda weird that there was a post about yao having a dream about scoring 50 only to have amare reach that a few days later.

    with all that said, i still wish yao won r.o.y. the year amare won it. also, thought it was kind of cool when stevie elbowed him in the throat.
     
  16. crash5179

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    How close is Amare to being the best PF in the league?

    How close is Amare at being an MVP for the league?

    This kid is scary to me because his motor reminds me of a very young Akeem from his first several seasons as a Rocket. Amare so quick and athletic plus he has strength to go with it, much like Dream did. Plus like Dream his offense is greatly generated from has superior athletic ability.

    The kid does not rebound as well as a young Dream or block shots as well but damn he is good. Hevan help the NBA if he dedicates himself to defense the way he has dedicated himself to offense.

    Personally I don't think there is a player in the NBA that can contain him and this includes Duncan or KG.
     
  17. Deuce

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    Amare's desire really is a huge asset to his game. He will continue to get better because of it.

    With that said..... Adding Nash really has been the catalyst to take Amare's game to the next level. They get so many fast break points/dunks it really adds up for Amare. Additionally with JJ, Q and Marion those are guys the opponent has to guard which means Amare probably gets single coverage almost all night long which again is a huge advantage. Chances are Amare out quicks ever teams center. Those benefits I think are HUGE to Amare's jump in production this year more than anything.

    It remains to be seen if Amare will ever be a good defensive player. But he might end up being a scoring machine and a highlight real like Shawn Kemp was.
     
  18. Uprising

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    Exactly, Yao settles too often about 10ft from the basket. This makes his move much harder and usually ends up being a difficult fade away jumper.

    The thing about Yao that frustrates me is every game there is a time where he would have had a for sure dunk. Instead he lowers the ball and hands it to the opposing guard. That....and his stone hands.

    I hope Yao can soften those babies up, we don't need any sign of Catoism here.
     
  19. JayZ750

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    Um, not close at all, imo.

    First, I'd put him as the fourth best PF in the NBA. Tied at #1, to me, are Duncan and KG. KG is clearly the most all-around talented player in the NBA. Not as explosive as Amare, but jsut as athletic, he can guard all 5 positions, makes his teammates better and is the far superior rebounder. Duncan is also a much better rebounder, has a much more complete post-up game, is a better passer (not as good as KG) and, most importantly, just wins. I'd still put Dirk Nowitski ahead of Amare, too, because I find Dirk's game to be even more unguardable than Amare's personally. He shots 41% from the 3 point line. And, he's a better rebounder, passer and comparable defender. Plus, unlike Amare, he DOESN'T have Steve Nash.

    Second, on the NBA MVP argument...I think you'd find just as many people who'd pencil Nash in as the MVP right now than Stoudemire. And that's assuming you'd still put either above KG, Duncan, Nowitski or Dwayne Wade.

    All that said, I love Amare's game. He is likely the most exciting player in the league to watch right now (though Wade is close). This Wednesday's game has been penciled on the calendar since mid-November as a must attend.

    BUT, it'd be unfair to not question Amare's post-up game (he has one, but it isn't spectacular), rebounding numbers (I know Marion is a great rebounder, too, but at the clip they put up shots, and with his athletic ability, how he doesn't average over 10 boards a game is beyond me) and his surge post addind Nash and Richardson to the team. Given his talents, I don't think Amare could be surrounded by any better talent.

    Basically, I think if you replace any of Duncan, KG or Nowitski with Amare, their teams probably aren't as good. If you replace Amare with those guys (especially KG and Duncan), the Suns are likely still as good as they are and are probably even better suited to win the championship.
     
  20. LegendZ3

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    Dream had way better footworks than Amare. I think Amare is the new Shawn Kemp without the little jump shot.

    I love to see him play, but at least he develop better post move, I don't think he can exceed the Rain Man.

    And for those of you who think we drafted the wrong guy, just remember, athletic ability doesn't last, but fineness will.
     

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