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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Nov 25, 2018.

  1. Buck Turgidson

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    I haven't seen any recent numbers (all I've got are a month old) on what countries are giving what, that would be interesting
     
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    Food aid is $3 billion of the total. It's mostly military, and I'm fine with that.

    From The Telegraph:

     
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    Russia doubles fossil fuel revenues since invasion of Ukraine began

    Russia has nearly doubled its revenues from selling fossil fuels to the EU during the two months of war in Ukraine, benefiting from soaring prices even as volumes have been reduced.

    Russia has received about €62bn from exports of oil, gas and coal in the two months since the invasion began, according to an analysis of shipping movements and cargos by the Centre for Research on Energy and Clean Air.

    For the EU, imports were about €44bn for the past two months, compared with about €140bn for the whole of last year, or roughly €12bn a month.

    The findings demonstrate how Russia has continued to benefit from its stranglehold over Europe’s energy supply, even while governments have frantically sought to prevent Vladimir Putin using oil and gas as an economic weapon.

    Even though exports from Russia have been reduced by the war and sanctions, the country’s dominance as a source of gas has meant cutting off supplies has only increased prices, which were already high because of tight supply as global economies recovered from the Covid-19 pandemic. Crude oil shipments from Russia to foreign ports fell by 30% in the first three weeks of April, compared with rates in January and February, before the invasion, according to the CREA data.

    But the higher prices Russia can now command for its oil and gas mean its revenues, which flow almost directly to the Russian government through state-dominated companies, have risen even while sanctions and export restrictions bite. Russia has effectively caught the EU in a trap where further restrictions will raise prices further, cushioning its revenues despite the best efforts of EU governments.
     
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    Yay Russia! Right?
     
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    I've always liked Peggy Noonan
     
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    There's no question -- there's a propaganda war being waged here, and getting the full/unedited truth is taking a backseat to supporting "our side".
     
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    There is only one country invading a peaceful neighbor.

    DD
     
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    @Commodore knows. He knows the weapons, he knows the frontlines. He knows the colors of the uniforms. The hats, even.
     
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    I thought it was taken for granted that you didn't want to promote Russian victories until they're verified or tweet Ukrainian stuff that might be considered intel leaks?
     
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    ****, maybe him publicizing the hat color was the wrong idea?
     
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