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U.S., Mexico and Canada=North American Union?

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  1. ryan17wagner

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    AUSTIN — Black helicopters, the Illuminati, Gov. Rick Perry and the Trans-Texas Corridor are all now part of the vernacular of the global domination conspiracy theorists.

    Perry's push for the Trans-Texas Corridor super highway is part of a secret plan, the conspiracy theorists say, to create the North American Union — a single nation consisting of Canada, Mexico and the United States with a currency called the Amero.

    Government denials of the North American Union and descriptions of it as a myth seem to add fuel to the fire. A Google search for "North American Union" and "Rick Perry" returns about 13,400 Web page results.

    "Conspiracy theories abound, and some people have an awful lot of time on their hands to come up with such far-fetched notions," said Perry spokesman Robert Black.

    Perry enhanced the conspiracy buzz earlier this summer by traveling to Turkey to attend the secretive Bilderberg conference, which conspiracy theorists believe is a cabal of international monied interests and power brokers pressing for globalization.

    And the conspiracy rhetoric is likely to ratchet up this week as President Bush meets with Mexican President Felipe Calderon and Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper in Quebec in their third summit to discuss North American relations under the Security and Prosperity Partnership.

    "There is absolutely a connection with all of it," said Texas Eagle Forum President Cathie Adams. The Trans-Texas Corridor "is something not being driven by the people of Texas."

    The first, and most controversial, leg of the Trans-Texas Corridor plan is a proposed 1,200-foot-wide private toll road to run from Laredo to the Oklahoma border parallel to Interstate 35. This TTC-35 would be built by a consortium headed by Spanish owned Cintra S.A. and Zachry Construction Corp. of San Antonio.

    The seed of the North American Union controversy rests in the 1992-93 passage of the North American Free Trade Agreement under Presidents George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton. Under that treaty, Interstate 35 was designated informally as the NAFTA highway.


    'Stealth' attempt
    Fast-forward to March 2005 to Crawford, when President Bush, Harper and then-Mexican President Vicente Fox agreed to pursue the Security and Prosperity Partnership, SPP. The idea was to promote cooperation among the countries on economic and security issues.
    But conservative author Jerome Corsi — in his new book: The Late Great U.S.A.: The Coming Merger with Mexico and Canada — argues the SPP is a "stealth" attempt to wipe out the nations' borders and form a single economy like the European Union.

    With an entire chapter dedicated to Perry's Trans-Texas Corridor plan, Corsi says the first step to integrating the economies is to integrate the transportation infrastructure.

    "His (Perry's) actions have been to fight hard to build this toll road and not listen to the objections expressed by the people of Texas," Corsi said.

    Corsi became nationally known in 2004 as the co-author of Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry. Corsi said extensive research shows the SPP has created working groups on the North American Union that answer to presidential Cabinet secretaries.

    "This is more of a shadow bureaucracy, a shadow government already in effect," Corsi said. "Unless it is stopped, it will turn into a North American Union with an Amero."

    The official federal Web site for the SPP has a section dedicated to busting the North American Union as myth.

    "The SPP does not attempt to modify our sovereignty or currency or change the American system of government designed by our Founding Fathers," the site says.

    But that has not stopped a growing opposition to the North American Union by groups such as the Eagle Forum, The Conservative Caucus and the John Birch Society.


    'Wanted' individual
    The North American Union also has been fodder for cable television commentators: CNN's Lou Dobbs and Fox's Bill O'Reilly.
    Perry fueled his role in the debate in June by attending the Bilderberg annual conference, a secretive closed-door meeting of about 120 business, government and media leaders from Europe and North America.

    Republican presidential candidate and U.S. Rep. Ron Paul of Lake Jackson was asked about the trip on the syndicated talk radio show of Alex Jones in June. Paul said the trip was "a sign that he's involved in the international conspiracy."

    Jones' Web site features mug shot-like photos of Perry labeled "Wanted for Treason." Jones in an interview said Perry's trip and the Trans-Texas Corridor show a willingness by the governor to sell out Texas' infrastructure to international bankers.

    "Perry is actively waging war, economically in the interests of the elites and neomercantilism," Jones said.

    The 2001 book Toward a North American Community: Lessons from the Old World for the New by Robert A. Pastor, an American University professor and director of the Center for Democracy and Election Management, is cited by Corsi as the blueprint for the merger.

    "I've never proposed a North American Union," Pastor said. "The only people who talk about a North American Union are those people who are trying to generate fear."


    Belief in sovereignty
    Pastor said greater cooperation between the three countries makes sense for both economics and internal security.
    Pastor said those promoting the conspiracy are doing so because of "historical xenophobia," "a fear of immigrants, mostly from Mexico" and a "traditional isolationism."

    Black said there is no way the governor would support merging the U.S. with its neighbors.

    "The governor is a firm believer in the sovereignty of the United States. Too many of our brave men and women have died defending it," Black said.

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/5064512.html
     
  2. Dubious

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    Look, the United States Of Earth has got to start somewhere.

    The fact is, the American way of life is only possible as long as the Dollar or the US minted 'Amero' is the world's currency. Owning the printing press is the only way we can continue to finance our energy extravagance, budget deficit government and trade deficit economy. If China and Iran can supplant the dollar with the Euro or the Yuan, we are royally f*cked. So you better just keep quiet and let the Illuminati, The Freemason and the Carlyle Group get this alliance done or The Great Depression is going to look like our salad days.
     
  3. Ottomaton

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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070818/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_canada_mexico

    "The leaders probably will discuss how best to counter the message of Venezuela's fiery president, Hugo Chavez, who is leading a leftward shift in Latin America. Each has a strategic interest in promoting democracy in the Western Hemisphere, an area of emphasis for Bush before he leaves office in January 2009"


    The promotion of demo¢ra¢y simply means replacing those who do not agree with the monroe doctrine with others that will:mad:
     
  5. insane man

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    this administration would never help facilitate replacing of a democratic regime for one it favors.

    - abu mazen.
     
  6. Mr. Clutch

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    Mexico- Yes
    Canada- no
     
  7. surrender

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    The Protocols of the Elders of Zion told me that the is one of the first steps to American subjugation under Mexican-Zionist overlords
     
  8. Invisible Fan

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    Canada- yes
    Quebekistan-no?
     
  9. JuanValdez

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    Even if the conspiracy theory was true, I don't see what I should be worried about.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    Just annex em both........

    :D

    DD
     
  11. windfern

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    The US economy is slowly deteriorating. Illegal immigration is unstoppable. Where this leads to?

    North American Union.
     
  12. weslinder

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    I don't want Canada.
     
  13. updawg

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    hola hosers
     
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    An article about the NAFTA superhighway.
    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=15497

    The NAFTA superhighway, the American Union and the Amero are all related.
     
  15. OddsOn

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    Do the words national soverignty ring a bell?
     
  16. JuanValdez

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    What about it? Sounds like the conspiracy theory is that these three nations would form into one very large sovereign nation. All three countries already have a system of divided powers, with a federal government and states with their own rights; a model that can be easily expanded. The North American Union would have a stronger presence in the world militarily and economically. There would be internal issues as there are for any major merger, but I'm not sure how it is undesireable in principal.
     
  17. rhester

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    It would not be one sovereign nation but a union by treaty that would invalidate our own sovereignty. This would lead towards a new type of goverance, probably a social democracy which is a political name for a dictatorship (by means of party control).
     
  18. Zac D

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    I'm with JV - this conspiracy theory sucks because it's not even scary if true.
     
  19. torque

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    Why is everyone so damn pessimistic about the state of our economy? Great Depression if the Euro supplants the Dollar? WTF? There is just no morsel of truth in that statement whatsoever.

    America has the most powerful and strongest economy in the world....and it is growing. Can someone please explain to me why so many poeple think we are ****ed?
     
  20. torque

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    Incorrect, social democracy is socialism in the form seen in the Scandinavian countries, Germany, France, etc. It has nothing to do with dictatorship.

    A treaty would not invalidate our sovereignty to a great degree, but it is true that the sovereignty of EU countries has been lessened to the extent that they must follow EU laws and statutes.

    For what it's worth, I'm not in favor of any kind of "union" as is being suggested. I am in favor, however, of a free trade agreement between the 3 countries that doesn't have as many cumbersome stipulations as NAFTA does. In essence, a complete free trading / movement of people zone.
     

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