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U.S. Mens Basketball: The Team We Should Have Sent [long]

Discussion in 'NBA Draft' started by chievous minniefield, Aug 26, 2004.

  1. chievous minniefield

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    A few disclaimers:

    1) I have bad insomnia
    2) I have put a lot of thought into the ramblings that will follow

    I have groused throughout these Olympics that my problem with our basketball team is that it is not our best team. I know, I'm the only person in the world who feels that way.

    Anyway, it's really bothered me trying to figure out what our truly best team would look like.

    I'm proud to present it to you here below. This team would bring home the goal easily. This team would be fun to watch. This team should be in Athens right now.

    I have based my team on three basic principles: 1) Defense, 2) Passing, 3) Shooting. Whenever possible, I've tried to populate the roster with players who excel in all three areas. However, in some cases, a player may only excel at two, and in a small number of instances, I have included a specialist.

    My roster consists of:

    2 true Point Guards
    1 swing player who can move over to point
    4 true swing players, combining defensive specialists with shooters
    5 true big men, all of whom can pass, play defense, and most of who can shoot

    Here's my starting lineup:

    PG -- Give me either Mike Bibby or Sam Cassell. Either one. Both of them can do it all: defend, pass, and shoot. Both have the stats to back it up. These two are America's most complete all-around point guards.

    SG -- I'm starting Paul Pierce as a shooter because I'm going to use my starting SF spot for a defensive bulldog. However, there are plenty of swing players on the bench who bring a more complete, well-rounded emphasis to this position and SF.

    SF -- From my SF, I've decided I want a guy who can be put on the whatever Euro shoots the best and will completely shut down and annihilate the guy, demoralizing him {I mean you, Jasikevicius}. Ron Artest is that guy. Everyone knows about his defense. His 3-pt. shooting and assist numbers are surprisingly good. But he starts for his defense. On my Olympic team, I always want a minimum of 1 defensive ace.

    PF -- Kevin Garnett is simply the most complete all-around player. He's got the size. He passes extremely well for a big man. And he gets the nod over Duncan because I think he will compliment the 5 better. Not a lot of explanation needed here. I also start him for his defensive intensity and tenacity. His fiery attitude plays more to the American strength, in my opinion than Duncan's.

    C -- Shaquille O'Neal. No other basketball player in the world can do what he does. He embodies everything that everyone loves and hates about the U.S. Raw power. Uncheckable power.

    Starters--

    Mike Bibby or Sam Cassell
    Paul Pierce
    Ron Artest
    Kevin Garnett
    Shaquille O'Neal

    Bench:

    Backup PG: Dwayne Wade. Anyone who has watched these Olympics knows why he makes the team. His defense, energy and speed are just about unmatched. Whichever guy starts--Cassell or Bibby--can handle the scoring aspects of the PG role. Wade is a nice change-of-pace 1.

    Swing player: Lebron James. Ditto most of what I said about Wade. The great thing about James is that you can play him at the point where he can provide excellent defense and passing, or you can play him at the 3 where he provides excellent defense and passing. He also gets out on the fast break extremely well and plays above the rim. This an area where we still have the advantage on the rest of the world.

    Backup 2/3: Doug Christie or Bruce Bowen can fill this role. Both have incredible defensive presences. They can truly harrass another player and make his day miserable. Both have better than expected 3-pt. percentages. I might give the nod to Doug Christie as I think his passing numbers are a little better, but I'll take either one and be happy.

    2/3 Shooting Specialist: Brent Barry. Between Pierce, James, and Christie or Bowen, we've got enough of the all-around covered. Barry gives the team an outstanding outside spot-up shooter and another outstanding passer.

    Backup Big #1: Tim Duncan. This really doesn't need much of an explanation, but basically. . . he does everything well. Plus, he can play the 4 or the 5.

    Backup Big #2: Brad Miller. Passes exceptionally well for a big man. Can step out and shoot with range. Also can play the 4 or the 5. Has mean attitude which goes well when facing nasty foreign villains.

    Backup C: Ben Wallace. The man brings his lunchpail to work, and he can defend and rebound as if those things were tasks he were paid to complete.

    I love this team. I don't think this team has any weaknesses. It's got it all. It can shoot. It can pass--it can REALLY pass. And most and best of all, it can defend like a motherdefender.

    In summary:

    1- Mike Bibby -or- Sam Cassell
    2- Dwayne Wade
    3- Lebron James
    4- Paul Pierce
    5- Doug Christie -or- Bruce Bowen
    6- Brent Barry
    7- Ron Artest
    8- Kevin Garnett
    9- Tim Duncan
    10- Brad Miller
    11- Shaquille O'Neal
    12- Ben Wallace

    No Kobe. No T-Mac. They're great NBA players, but they don't get it done in the Olympics.

    This is the best team America could send, and this team would bring home the gold. Every single player adds something to the whole. This team exudes strength and beauty and pretty much everything good at all. This team would play the international game with style and aplomb.

    I feel much better now, just knowing who our best really would be. If only we'd sent them.
     
  2. LiLStevie3

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    T-Mac did a hell of a job at the qualifying tournament last year. He was the team's leading scorer until his back started acting up and ended up as the 3rd leading scorer on the team. And that's on a team that was up by 30+ on Argentina by halftime and ended up beating them by 33 in the final.

    That's more than can be said about Paul Pierce, who was Mr. Selfish on a sixth place USA team.
     
  3. pacertom

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    That's a very good list, though

    I'd rather have another pure shooter like Redd over Pierce,

    I'd take an extra swingman (McGrady) over an offensively challenged big (Ben Wallace)

    Otherwise I'd prefer Bibby over Cassell and Christie over Bowen, but you've put together a good team.
     
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    Maybe this is crazy, but I would send Wally Sczerbiak to the olympics, especially over a guy like Shawn Marion. Being the 3pt line is only 20-21 ft, I think Wally would be a huge weapon.
     
  5. Franchise2001

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    If we would want to embarass the world, this is the team that should be there:

    PG: Kidd
    SG: Tmac
    SF: KG
    PF: Duncan
    C: Shaq

    Backups: PG: Baron Davis, SG: Kobe, SF: Pierce, PF: Webber, C: Ben Wallace

    Ray Allen, Sczerbiak, or Redd would also be good choices for outside shooting.
     
  6. chievous minniefield

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    watching the game today, and after just a little bit of sleep, I came to the conclusion that Pierce was the probably the weakest link of the team I assembled.

    I think his 3-pt. shooting percentage was what swayed me, but I could certainly live with a healthy Tracy McGrady over Pierce. they could both fill the same role pretty well, I think.
     
  7. chievous minniefield

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    looking at his stats from last year, I was a little disappointed to see Redd's percentage was not as high as I thought it'd be. I actually went into the process thinking I'd probably take Redd. I thought there were comparable shooting options who brought more defensively than him.

    I would probably lean toward Bibby over Cassell, too, especially if we're factoring in real-life injuries. however, if they're both completely healthy, I might like to see Sam get a little more love. I think he's one of the most underrated players of all time.

    I would also lean toward Christie over Bowen.
     
  8. LiLStevie3

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    Your starting lineup would be unstoppable in an NBA game, but it's not versatile enough for the international game. You would want a perimeter guy at SF to give Duncan and Shaq room to operate. KG at the 3 isn't really a good idea in international play, especially since he could be forced to chase a shooter around screens- not something a 7'0 footer would want to do.

    Also. I don't know about your choice of Baron Davis. He played horribly at the 2002 World Championships and had trouble adjusting to international play. He's an erratic shooter who loves to shoot. I think w/ Kidd as the starting PG, Bibby or Cassell would be a good backup pg who can come in and shoot the ball consistently.

    I would go w/ a team of:
    PG: Kidd
    SG: R. Allen
    SF: McGrady
    PF: Garnett
    C: Duncan

    Bench: Bibby, Redd, Bryant, J. O'Neal, Brad Miller, B. Wallace, Doug Christie- a defensive stopper who doesn't need the ball, but isn't a complete offensive liability

    A healthy Webber would also be a good choice as his passing and midrange game would fit pretty well in the international game.

    Wally or Redd would have been a better choice than Wade, Anthony, James, etc.
     

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