I really like Chandler, think he would fit well and want him through free agency somehow. I realize that his contract is restricted so I was thinking of ways to get around it. There are always ways of doing things, it's just a matter of figuring it out. My idea is that we try to sign Chandler to a one year deal worth too much for Chandler and give him a player option for the remaining years on his contract. In other words: 1st year- 14 million dollars (player option to void contract) 2nd year-6 million 3rd year-6 million 4th year-6 million 5th year(team option)-8 million 6th year(team option)-8 million (Six-year deal at 8 million per year) I don't know Tyson Chandlers real market worth so let the numbers slide please. It's the idea of a heavy front end contract with a player option that is important. That way Chandler will get over paid for one year and then would stay with the Rockets after he excercises his contract and gets underpaid the next 3 years until things balance out. Bulls wouldn't fight for him because they would over pay for one year and then lose him. Problem with this trade is trusting that Houston is where Tyson Chandler wants to be. He has said so publicly(I think), but he would ultimately have the power in the contract. If the Bulls match that offer then he can leave after one more year and the Bulls will have wasted money on the contract. My idea is to make the contract too heavy for the Bulls, but fair to ourselves. Is this possible? Would the Rockets get a bad name in basketball for that type of deal? Are there any long term issues with making this deal seeing that it is low-balling the Bulls? Would Chandler play hardball with us and take the one year deal with us and leave?
This is long term contract that takes care of us by under paying Chandler for 3 years. You didn't actually read everything did you?
I'm pretty sure there are set increments at which your contract value can rise or decrease (akward wording, I know). I could be wrong, I guess
The only way we could sign him is in a S & T or using the MLE. I don't think we have anything Chicago would want other than T-Mac and I know we aren't going to do that. With the MLE the most we could sign him for is about 5 mil/yr and Chicago would immediately match it. Why would Chandler even consider signing a MLE when Chicago has already said they would match the max contract of approx 13.8 million?
Correct. Off the top of my head, the 12.5% (or 10% for others) raise limit is also the limit for a salary reduction. I'd go pull the text but the NBPA website has been down for awhile. You can do signing bonuses whose cap amounts are amortized over the life of the contract, which is what the Nuggets used to scare the Nets into the sign and trade, and also with Andre Miller vs. the Clippers, iirc. However don- where in the world are you coming up with 14 mill in capspace, or even 6 mill for that matter? The Nuggets had the cap room to make those offers. We can tell Chicago what we'd "be willing" to offer till CD's face turns blue, and they'll be laughing because we don't have the capability of making that offer.
Can't do it. It'd be nice to land him somehow, though. Although at this point we'd honestly have a better chance at convincing the Clippers to give up Elton Brand through their stupidity. Chicago ain't letting Tyson Chandler go.
Chicago has said it will match any offer for Chandler and since we only have the MLE to offer, we don't stand a chance to outbid other teams or Chicago. Our best chance is for Chandler to tell Chicago not to match and "demand" a S&T. Or if he really wants to, he can do what Stro did and sign a 1 year deal and then become a UFA.
the thing is, I knew that this thread would propose some wild ass, impossible under cap or reality deal. But I read it anyway. damn this is a long offseason. stupid astros.
With Curry's questionable health, there is no way Chicago let's Chandler go. Chandler would be the best PF available (yes, better than Swift), but Chicago stated that CHandler and Curry are their top priorities. If Curry can't go with his heart condition, the Bulls will completely focus on Chandler. It will be a PR disaster to let Chandler go with the Brand trade to the Clippers and all of those terrible seasons. I am with you all. Chandler would be ideal for Houston, but I don't see it happening.
I love how ya'll have all answered this question as if I thought I knew what I was talking about. I clearly stated that the numbers were not important yet NIKEstrad was quick to mention that I pulled those numbers from nowhere(yes I did and said I did). I loved the days when people read the threads for content before they responded. However, thank you for your nose in the air answers because I feel like I know more about contracts now. You are all clearly smarter than I am and wanted to show me up. Cheer up folks and read entire threads, it was just an idea waiting to be shot down.
I miss those good ol' days, too. Whatever happened to those great Kelvin Cato + Mo Taylor + a draft pick for Kevin Garnett threads? They just don't make threads like they used to....
first off - there is no CBA in place, and the rumors are cirulating that its a MAX of 5 years on new deals. Second, its not trhe NFL (its a nice try though) you can't give the money upfront (like a signing bonus) - if anything, its easier to backload NBA contracts third, the rockets are not under the cap - and even if they were, I think Mo T has soured them on long term deals for non superstars ... 4th - as outrageous as the proposal is, I don't it merits the 1 star rating
Please, show me. Closest I could come... That relates to what Chandler can get in the market, not what the Rockets can pay. That's your thread title and underlying question. I explained in my post you can't have salary reductions of that size, nor can the Rockets start it that high. The Rockets are limited to the MLE as a first year salary, and clearly no contract the Rockets make starting at ~5 mill is going to scare the Bulls off. Don't blame me because your thread lacks any base in reality or feasibility.
Ok, I usually don't post, because others usually say things better than I can, but don't get mad at others for shooting down your post especially since you are a senior member. Anyone who reads a lot from this BBS should know about MLE's and cap restrictions.
Good idea. If we're lucky, CD can convince Puff Daddy to negotiate a contract. Tyson Chandler is exactly what we need, IMHO, but the kid's gonna get piz-aid this offseason. He'll be drinking Gatorade out of pimp cups while he's on the bench for a breather. I really think the kid's worth the MLE, but he'll get more.
