Two possible trades to complete the offseason action

i would do these trades in a heartbeat. Especially the first one, i would love to have Mohammed.

 

i would never do the first trade but the second one is nice.

 

I'm actually thinking Juwan may turn out to be a nice upgrade at PF. Despite his popularity, he is 18/7 career guy, and was 17/7 last year. Compared to Taylor's 13/5 career (he's never averaged more than 13 ppg since leaving LA) and Cato's 5/5 career and 6/7 last year, Howard's not the scrub so many on these boards take him to be.

As the 3rd option, he should be freed up to have a nice season.

Evan

 

The first trade would really thin us out at PF. Nazr is a center, so he'd back up Yao. This would leave us with MoT starting and Spoon backing him up.

It would only work if Mohammed took on a role very similar to Cato's last year.

I'd preffer to have Howard at the 4, though.

 

I don't know why you'd trade for Nazr and then put him in the PF spot. He'd be my backup 5. If we want a PF, Juwan is better.

 

I agree with you for the most part, but I just dont like his contract for some reason. It's too long for a guy that is in the twighlight of his career. I think there are still plenty of teams that would love to have the guy even with his contract, and if we can get something good for him, I would trade him. I think we could get more than Mohammed for him, though I would love for him to be on the team.

 

Two Thumbs Down!

 

I'd definately do the second trade in a heartbeat. The second trade makes the first one futile because Nazar and James are both true centers, and howard would play the 4 better than either.

 

No the first one...Howard>>>>>Mohammad

Yes to the second one...in a heartbeat...

 

I would do the first trade. Nazr is very productive for someone that doesn't get a ton of playing time. In 24 minutes playing for the Knicks last season, he gets 9 points and 7.7 rebounds. Bump his minutes up to about 30 minutes and he should be able to average 12 points and 10 rebounds, which would be perfect production from the power forward position.

 

Definite Yes to the second trade!!!

 

It wouldn't be a bad trade, I guess. Remember, we're stuck with Mo. He's a nice boost off the bench offensively, so with Nazr, that might be a nice balance. Howard is still an all around better 4, but I never liked soft 4's anyway.

 

I think too many people are assuming that scoring will just come easy now that we have T-Mac. Think again. We'll still have trouble scoring if we trade Howard for a guy who will struggle to average 10ppg. Daniels isn't a consistent scorer. JJ is a consistent defender and rebounder, but he's still a slightly streaky outside shooter.

Howard's a better option at the 4. Trading him for Mohammed would not make us a more balanced team, IMO.

 

If you think Mohammed is a better fit for the Rockets, you're going to be pleasantly surprised this season.

 

I like both. The first I like strictly for financial reasons. Nazr's contract ends in two season and I'm not sure about paying Howard for 5 more seasons at his age. Nazr does have some offense, at least better than Cato. I think the Knicks do the deal especially if they trade Kurt Thomas to get Dampier (or Carter). The second I think alot of us have agreed we would like to happen and has a good possibility of taking place.

 

Hey Toast, what exactly do you mean? Are we going to be surprised at how Howard's plays, or are you saying Nazr will be better than what we imagine?

 

One thing that surprised me about Howard while I was glancing at some game-by-game stats of him last year was how many times he'd score in the high 20's and occasionaly 30's. Looking at his stats, I figured that he just stayed around the 15-20 point mark in every game, but he seemed to have some nights in Orlando where he could really score. Of course, to make his season avg 17 ppg, he'd probably follow up a 30 point game with a 10 point game, but he still seems to be a great offensive option.

I'm not to sure of this trade, but then again I'm not that great at evaluating trades. (Pike for Wade looks good to me, while I wouldn't like trading Boki for Tayshaun Prince .) I'm not sure how well Nazr could play the 4, especially since he'd probably play a lot there with James and Yao and the 5. JMO, although I do like the players in the deals, just not in these particular deals.