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Two new names to consider: Kenny Andersen and Marc (not Mark) Jackson

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rileydog, Apr 21, 2003.

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  1. Rileydog

    Rileydog Member

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    1. kenny andersen can run the point. He would provide us the veteran leadership that we ahve been missing. I heard an interview of him on the radio 2 months ago and he has been frustrated this year because of his lack of playing time. we can guarantee him the starting pg spot. I can't imagine that he would command a huge salary at this point in his career. This gives us a short backcourt, but i think the benefit is worth it. We can rely on zones a little more.

    Perhaps we keep Mobley as 6th man. If he's unwilling to take that role, then dump him. I still think that Barry or Jackson would be a better fit for this team. A 3 guard rotation of Andersen/Francis/Jackson or Barry would be just fine. Francis would be our backup point guard.

    2. I recall that we were interested in Marc Jackson when he was at GSW and made an offer, but GSW matched. I'm not sure how he wound up at the TWolves, but at 6-10 and 270, he's a PF with power. He looked pretty good against the Lakers the other night, and I've always liked his toughness. Minnesota is going to be looking to shake things up after they get swept by the Lakers.
    I'd seriously consider Taylor for Jackson, straight up. Jackson's wide body could be a good compliment to Yao, and Jackson could play 4 and 5. Taylor would give Minnesota a better scoring threat than Joe Smith. Maybe Mobley/Taylor/Cato for Szcerbiak and Jackson? I'm not sure that Minnesota would consider Mobley an upgrade since Szcerbiak is probably a better scorer.
     
    #1 Rileydog, Apr 21, 2003
  2. JoeBarelyCares

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    Anderson might be doable. Would he take the middle class exception? I doubt if anyone would offer more. But would paying Anderson 4.5 million along with another 4.5 million + for Posey, along with Steve's new deal kicking in, put us in luxury tax land (where Les said we would not go)? What's the latest on whether there will be a luxury tax next year?
     
    #2 JoeBarelyCares, Apr 21, 2003
  3. Rileydog

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    As much as I like him, I think Posey is almost certainly gone b/c we need to give Boki some PT. The only way we keep Posey is if we deal Rice, which is theoretically possible.

    As much as Posey contributes to the team, I think we need a Kenny Andersen more. Truth be told, I'd prefer to keep Posey rather than Mobley.
     
    #3 Rileydog, Apr 21, 2003
  4. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Kenny Anderson might not be a bad idea to look at for the backup PG spot. Clearly this team needs to upgrade it's "third guard" spot on the team. Moochie is pretty much dead money the way he is playing and I feel that we should not hang our hat on him to be the 3rd guard for us. Kenny Anderson would not be my first choice as a 3rd guard because ideally I am looking for more of a combo guard that can play either the 1 or the 2 but if we can't find anyone in that mold Andrson would at least give us a decent back up PG that is going to "pass first."

    As for Marc Jackson, he doesn't bring anything that Cato already brings. I don't see how he would fit in here with the roster we currently have. And I don't think we can trade Jackson for Taylor straight up. I think Taylor makes considerably more than Jackson does. The Wolves would have to throw someone else in the deal.
     
    #4 Deuce, Apr 21, 2003
  5. xiki

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    I'd rather sign his cousin, and frankly Kenny needs to stay at TNT (or find other work rather than anywhere near an NBA court).

    There is not a single reason to ever consider bringing in KA. None.

    Jax? For Mooch. No way anything else.

    No way to both. None. Nada. Fuhgeddabouddit.
     
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  6. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    We are talking about Kenny Anderson, not Kenny Smith.
     
    #6 Deuce, Apr 21, 2003
  7. Fegwu

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    I agree. No to Kenny Anderson.

    His last descent season came last century when he was still at New Jersey. He does not have much to offer - defensively and floor general wise. Pouts alot too.
     
    #7 Fegwu, Apr 21, 2003
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    MJ can play 2 positions well, Cato can only play one.
     
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    I shudder to think about marc jackson attempting to guard some of the quick PF's in the league. In fact, I don't see him as any more, and possibly even less, mobile than Kelvin. He might be able to play two positions, but not well.

    Which brings up an interesting point, I would like to see rudy or whoever. experiment with the Cato/Ming simultaneous lineup. It can't be any worse than the 3-guard disaster that is still distressingly common.
     
    #9 SamFisher, Apr 21, 2003
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    cato can play two positions, if given the chance...
     
    #10 verse, Apr 21, 2003
  11. JBIIRockets

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    Ummm. Kenny Anderson is not the answer. My beef with him is that he is not an effective player.

    Doesn't finish layups at times, and is a inconsisitent perimeter shooter.
     
    #11 JBIIRockets, Apr 21, 2003
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    Dear Rudy T,

    This thread is further proof us rocket fans are getting so desperate,we will take Marc Jackson at this point. Please help us by either posting here openly,and trade for Brand so we can sleep at night without worrying about getting crappy 6'9 marc Jackson who cant rebound better than my grandma.

    signed: robbieg.
     
    #12 robbieg, Apr 21, 2003
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    i'm not too thrilled about either of those players however kenny would be a step up from mooch as a backup pg. having him as a starter would create the problem of having 2 undersized guards on defense.

    i think a perfect pickup would be brent barry. he can run the point, he can nail the 3 when steve and yao are doubled, and he can guard the opposing 2's on defense. mobley could move to the bench and potentially be even more dangerous, much like the bobby jackson situation in sacramento. the only thing with barry is that he seems to get hurt alot but i'd take the risk if he is a free agent. i'm not sure on his situation though.
     
    #13 BigM, Apr 21, 2003
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    Marc Jackson is a poor rebounder and a poor defender. He's also not a great athlete, and pouts a lot.

    Perhaps, at his salary, if he worked out and put himself in great great shape this summer, I'd seriously consider him as the backup 4/5, but otherwise, no way.

    But the only way I'd do that is if they take MoT or Cato, and the only REASON I'd do that is because he doesn't make much money and is an adequate backup.
     
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  15. Yetti

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    Rileydog :- The Three Guard Rotation is one of the major problems of the Rockets, it needs to go!
     
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  16. Rileydog

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    Yetti - i agree, 2 of our 3 guards need to go, and it aint francis. I was thinking of scenarios that could move Francis to the 2 guard. there are few veteran point guards that can be had, and K Andersen came to mind. I don't feel strongly about it, but wanted to hear thoughts about him.

    I do feel strongly that we need to replace mobley with someone that doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective. Mobley is a creator and initiater. He can finish sometimes, but rarely creates for others. Our two best creators and initiators are Francis and Yao. We need to take Mobley out and put in a spot up shooter. The only thing that person needs to do is either shoot an open J or swing the ball to the next person. We can't have Mobley's 10 second tap dance. Not at the expense of Francis and yao. if those two want to hold the ball longer, that's still a problem, but acceptable because they're the franchise players.

    I hate playing 3 guards at once. It's one of the reasons that i'm in favor of moving rudy to a "consultant" position.
     
    #16 Rileydog, Apr 21, 2003
  17. ROXTXIA

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    Rileydog,

    The Doc just started a thread saying Steve will be the 2 next year. Hopefully that's right.

    I don't think Posey should be waived to give Boki playing time, because they did the same thang with Kenny, and we ended up with Eddie Griffin - Captain Disaster; and that netted us Posey...and then we would have nothing for him?

    Re-sign Posey, then move someone later, if necessary. As far as Glen Rice, I like his leadership but to hell with his playing time.
     
    #17 ROXTXIA, Apr 21, 2003
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    I don't get this reasoning. Since when is Nachbar deserving of so much PT? He hasn't exactly come out and lit up a place yet. I would hold onto Posey before crowning Boki the starting small forward of the future.
     
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  19. Rileydog

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    A case can be made that Posey was our 2nd best player this year. He seems to really want to stay (all the references to "we" in recent interviews).

    I'd love to keep him and am wishing for a Mark Cuban, money be damned, owner right about now. Actually, it's way to early to know about boki, but I wouldn't mind keeping Posey b/c he's still young, and just trade Boki to a taker. I'm sure that there were many teams that liked him enough to draft him.

    The knock on Boki about being a poor defender is utterly believable and with Francis moving to the 2 guard, there will be more pressure on others to play defense, and Posey was perhaps our best.

    OK, now I've talked myself into wanting to keep Posey and trading Boki.
     
    #19 Rileydog, Apr 21, 2003
  20. KeepJuaquin

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    They aren't new names. Everyone already knows them.

    Kenny Anderson would be a good backup point guard. Sign him as midlevel exception.

    AND WHAT ANSWER? Of course they aren't no answers. But they are improvements. Yes. The answer is Tim Duncan and Shaq and Kobe and Elton Brand. Still won't be the answer much without good coaching. Get the answer, Allen Iverson. Sure.

    Role players.

    Anderson would be better than Moochie.

    Marc Jackson. NO.
     
    #20 KeepJuaquin, Apr 21, 2003
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