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Turkey tournament: China vs Angola 08/02

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by windandsea, Aug 2, 2002.

  1. windandsea

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    07/31 China vs Turkey 65-78. Ming played 30 minutes. His stats is: 15 points, 15 rebounds, 3assists, 2 blocks. (a good game)

    08/01 China vs Brazil 62-97. Ming played 18 minutes. He had 10 points, 2 reb and 2 assist. (a bad game)

    Today, China vs Angola
     
  2. Old School

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    Bad game? Cato lives for stats like that.



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  3. verse

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    what's up with 3 games in 3 nights?? and were they trying to rest ming in the middle game (18 minutes)?
     
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    It seems that Ming had foul trouble in this game.

    Date: 08/02/2002

    Subject: China - Angola Game Report

    With the start of the game consecutively China found fast-breaks, and they used inside with their physically dominant centers. At the beginning these tall players caused problems for Angola, but after a few minutes Angola took advantage of it and started to score from outside with quick plays. The period ended with 22-20 for China.

    When Batere substituded with Yao Ming and took control in both offence and deffence. Angola took the lead for a moment, but China finished the first half by 10 points lead: 45-35.

    Angola started the third quarter with man to man.They tried to stop Batere by denying him face to face . Both teams performed very well in diffence. Hence both teams could not score nearly about 4 minutes. After Yao Ming had involved the game, Angola penetrated inside and scored by finding the empty wing players. In the middle of the third quarter, Ming got his fourth foul already, and Batere too. Angola still kept on melting the difference and the last score for third period: 53-49. The game continued head to head with trading baskets. Angola took the lead after a long brake when 06:35 remaining. Although Yao Ming fouled out 05:40 to go, China picked long range shoots and reached a 7 point lead. Final score was 77-71 for China. Man of the match was Batere who made double-double with 18 points and 10 rebounds.
     
  5. redao

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    Play centers and inside post strategy for Chinese national team is a failure so far. Great Walls are ver easily neutralized. They are not Shaq. Yao Ming can do some help, but not critical to win.

    The NBA training course doesn't help Wang Fei to coach international games. Outside shooting was the only straw for this team. Once he abandoned it, he and his players had to suffer the lose all the way.
     
  6. rocketlaunch

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    Well thanks for all the updates guys.
     
  7. MysticRyder

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    But in 40 minutes wouldn't that give him 22 points 4 rebounds 4 assists.



    :D :D :D :D :D
     
  8. Easy

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    Your math is a little off, Mystic.

    That's 48 min, 25 pts, 17 reb, 5 a, 2 blk.

    Not bad.
     
  9. Apollo Creed

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    Easy, you completely misunderstood what Mystic was saying. And I'm not explaining it.
     
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    :(

    Ming: 7 points, 3/5 FG, 5 rebounds, 2 blocks.
     
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    How can he get more points when he only got 5 friggin attempts.

    How many minutes did he play.

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  12. windandsea

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    Yao Ming played 14 minutes. This is the full stat for this game.

    How can the head coach of China always use one center? Don't you guys think it is a waste that Bateer is the back up of Ming and Wang is the back up of Bateer for a team like China
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    Both Yao and Bateer are not very quick. That is why they cannot be used at the same time. Wang is quicker, so Yao and Wang or Bateer and Wang can be on the court at the same time.

    The current trend in Chinese basketball is the taller the better. In addition, most of the tall players are shooter type players with poor defensive and rebounding abilities. The makeup of the team is like a all-star team, which is simply not right. When facing a strong team, none of them can shoot well. I'd rather have some defensive players and shorter-and-quicker players on the team.
     
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    :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
     
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    You guys forget that they didn't even keep stats for individual players until just a few years ago and when a single player plays TOO well, they are chastized for it.
     
  17. windandsea

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    I just think that the head coach of China doesn't know how to use Ming. Ming's teammates of Shanghai Sharks are much worse than those of National Teams. But Sharks only lost one game in the whole season and Ming often got 40/20 at one game. The head coach of Sharks designed the whole strategy to surround Ming and fully use his height. Now in the National Team, I found Ming almost became the bench player. At today's news conference, The head coach criticized the "inside" again. :confused:
     
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    I dink China would play better if they have wang zhi zhi in lineup.
    China's coaching aint good. I dink yao ming are restless playing too much b ball. He really need a break from b ball.
     
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    It might be true 10 or 20 years ago, but I don't think that's the case for today's Chinese basketball...

    In fact, 2 years ago, when a Chinese player scored 70 points in a single game in their league, everyone was happy and his coach said lots of good words on him.
     
  20. ElGrandeQueso

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    Yao Ming is a fantastic performer in the art of basketball. :rolleyes: Let's see, 48 min, 25 pts, 17 reb, 5 a, 2 blk. Oh, and please don't forget the probably 12 fouls which went surprisingly unmentioned. Also keep in mind, Yao put up these excellent stats against the stellar competition of the much-renowned international powers of Turkey and Brazil. Oh pardon my gaffe, I was mistaken for a World Cup soccer match. It's amazing to me that people can consider Yao's performance in these games as anything but pure suck, even making excuses for the man. With the competition Yao is facing, he should be putting up Shaquille O'Neal, Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem numbers. Foul trouble should be the least of his worries, especially with the center competition he is facing. Yao Ming vs. Turkish center X SHOULD BE the equivalent of Randy Johnson pitching to rec league softball man. There should be no competition. Unfortunately, what Yao Ming should be and what he really is are two different things. As the number one overall pick, he should be a dominant basketball player with few clear weaknesses and the ability to contribute immediately in the NBA. However, Yao Ming is a tall man who plays basketball and can only identify fowl as a dish eaten before a gourmet plate of German Shepherd.
     

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