Trumponomics 1.0 's Final Numbers, lost 2.9 Million Jobs, unemployment rose from 4.7% to 6.3% in addition, when Trump was fired as POTUS, the debt level was 40.43% higher than when he was hired. https://bbs.clutchfans.net/threads/...onsible-potus-since-lbj.323105/#post-15186318
Closing date is during a worldwide pandemic that Trump may have grossly mishandled but didn't start. If we're really going to talk about what he's going to do to the economy, this is starting out on the wrong foot.
Yep. We can criticize Trump for a lot, but it is hard to judge on the effects of a global pandemic that had severe negative impacts worldwide.
started the global trade war---creating supply chain bottlenecks---planting the seeds for global inflationary pressure did bother to pass the infrastucture bill
Trump had control over the global trade war passing of the infrastructure bill he did not bother to pass it btw, the Pandemic did not take place until Trump's last yr in office
Sure, and we can talk qualitatively about his past and future mistakes. And I would also say that all presidents face unforeseen and uncontrollable events that impact their numbers -- in fact, I would say that most of the numbers on the menu of that graphic are poor indicators of presidential performance because presidents have a minority share of influence on those metrics. On the flipside, Trump's strongest appeal in the election was based on his performance "on the economy." So it might be only fair to make him take the blame too if he's going to get the credit. And he's proposing to do some radical stuff with our economy, so he's probably going to have a larger impact on the economic success or failure of the United States over the next 10 years than the average, more staid president would.
taken as a whole, they have been / are / will continue to be good indicators of economic performance perhaps you can come up w some better metrics
If he gets his cabinet picks it will be war over the next 4 years and the economy will tank....... DD
Some of those are good, though I'd like to see added a metric on economic disparity. But, 'economic performance' isn't what I'd said -- I'd said 'presidential performance,' which isn't remotely the same. Oftentimes decisions presidents make that will impact the economy are not felt until years later (like Biden's infrastructure bills). And things happen in the world that are beyond a president's control (like covid). Even the things that presidents can do and are felt in the near term aren't readily isolated by economists from the dynamic swirl they are set in -- so you couldn't even say definitively that doing X caused Y% inflation or Z% GDP growth.
You said the exact same thing in 2016 and it was one of the most peaceful times in my life. Trump is not a war monger like the current administration, which by the way, is supported by King War Monger himself, Dick Cheney.
??? reminiscent of your rationalization that price gouging tactics (admitted by a Korger pricing executive in an email) isn't evidence of price gouging. https://bbs.clutchfans.net/threads/price-gouging-in-the-headlines.324031/
Give me a break. Biden gets all the blame for inflation that was caused by covid but trump doesn't get any of the negative from covid. What a bs double standard
I'm not sure of the relevance, but my opinion about price gouging hasn't changed. I never blamed and do not blame Biden for inflation, which I think was primarily caused by covid with a possible secondary culprit being Trump's trade wars. To whatever extent Biden's covid shutdown or covid stimulus might be responsible, I don't regret it at all. Standards of living would have been hit much worse than they were by inflation if there was no public health or aid during the actual crisis. The double standard you're seeing is some conflation of what I said contrasted with what some asshat I don't agree with said. If we did one, I expect that we'd see positive job growth, maybe lower unemployment, high stock market performance, and slightly improved murder rate. But that doesn't mean Trump's administration wasn't a dumpster fire.
Its just amazing how poll after poll thinks the trump shutdowns happened during Biden when it happened under trump in March of 2020. Its just mind blowing how Americans think covid entirely happened under biden. I dont understand what happened to Americans
