He is literally the biggest hypocrite alive and anyone that voted for him expecting otherwise is at BEST gullible and at worst, a ****ing moron. BTW- look at the idiots saying pardoning a SON for having a gun is equivalent to pardoning 1600 people who tried to overthrow our government. I take it back anyone that voted for Trump is a ****ing moron. DD
agree in principle, but the thing is that most police are pro-trump. trump said he was going to pardon these violent traitors, including those who assaulted their fellow officers. they knew exactly what they were voting for. and the sad thing is that they dont care.
I mean, all these guys have been in prison for like 4 years now or something? The worst video anyone could produce was of someone pushing a cop with his own shield or something. That deserves some punishment, and I was quite upset with what happened on Jan. 6, but I guess 4 years in jail seems like it's not negligible.
He was never convicted for that. Never even tried in court. Hes also not the pirate bay guy..... hes silk road
so you decree that 4 years is appropriate punishment for assaulting and injuring hundreds of police officers? youre either lying here or blind.
Yeah sorry. Got the thing's name mixed up. There were quite a few texts that were read into evidence that were pretty clear.
So clear and compelling that they dropped attempted murder charges? You would think the prosecution might want to get closure on whoever attempted to murder the victim and not leave the case open. The reason the case was dropped is because the person who put out the hit probably wasnt ulbricht and it certainly couldnt be proven in court it was. https://reason.com/video/2025/01/17/trump-promised-to-free-ross-ulbricht-heres-why-he-should/
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/donald-...olice-gop-258a4a6e?mod=hp_opin_pos_2#cxrecs_s Trump Pardons the Jan. 6 Cop Beaters Law and order? Back the blue? What happened to that GOP? By The Editorial Board Jan. 21, 2025 at 6:21 pm ET Republicans are busy denouncing President Biden’s pre-emptive pardons for his family and political allies, and deservedly so. But then it’s a shame you don’t hear many, if any, ruing President Trump’s proclamation to pardon unconditionally nearly all of the people who rioted at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. This includes those convicted of bludgeoning, chemical spraying, and electroshocking police to try to keep Mr. Trump in power. Now he’s springing them from prison. This is a rotten message from a President about political violence done on his behalf, and it’s a bait and switch. Asked about Jan. 6 pardons in late November, Mr. Trump projected caution. “I’m going to do case-by-case, and if they were nonviolent, I think they’ve been greatly punished,” he said. “We’re going to look at each individual case.” Taking cues from the boss, last week Vice President JD Vance drew a clear line: “If you committed violence on that day, obviously you shouldn’t be pardoned.” So much for that. The President’s clemency proclamation commutes prison sentences to time served for 14 named people, including prominent leaders of the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers, who were organized and ready for violence. Then Mr. Trump tries to wipe Jan. 6 clean, with “a full, complete and unconditional pardon to all other individuals.” The conceit is that there are hundreds of polite Trump supporters who ended up in the wrong place that day and have since rotted in jail. Out of roughly 1,600 cases filed by the feds, more than a third included accusations of “assaulting, resisting, or impeding law enforcement.” The U.S. Attorney’s office said it declined “hundreds” of prosecutions against people whose only offense was entering restricted grounds near the Capitol. Of the 1,100 sentences handed down by this year, more than a third didn’t involve prison time. The rioters who did get jail often were charged with brutal violence, including: • Daniel Joseph “DJ” Rodriguez, sentenced to 151 months, who can be seen on video, federal prosecutors said, deploying an “electroshock weapon” against a policeman who was dragged out of the defensive line, by “plunging it into the officer’s neck.” The night before, he promised in a MAGA chat group: “There will be blood.” • William Lewis, given 37 months, “sprayed streams of Wasp and Hornet Killer spray at multiple police officers on four distinct occasions,” forcing several to flee the line and “seek treatment for their eyes.” • Isreal James Easterday, 30 months, blasted a cop “in the face with pepper spray at point-blank range,” after which the officer “collapsed and temporarily lost consciousness, which enabled another rioter to steal his baton.” • Thomas Andrew Casselman, 40 months, hit multiple officers “near their faces” with pepper spray. His later internet searches included, “The statute of limitations for assault on a police officer.” • Curtis Davis, 24 months, punched two police officers in the head. That night he filmed a video of his fist, in which he bragged: “Them knuckles right there, from one of those m— faces at the Capitol.” • Ronald Colton McAbee, 70 months, hit a cop while wearing “reinforced brass knuckle gloves,” and he held one down on the ground as “other rioters assailed the officer for over 20 seconds,” causing a concussion. • Michael Joseph Foy, 40 months, brought a hockey stick with a TRUMP 2020 flag attached, which he swung “over his head and downward at police officers as if he were chopping wood.” There are more like this, which everyone understood on Jan. 6 and shortly afterward. “There is nothing patriotic about what is occurring on Capitol Hill,” one GOP official tweeted. “This is 3rd world style anti-American anarchy.” That was Marco Rubio, now Mr. Trump’s Secretary of State. He was right. What happened that day is a stain on Mr. Trump’s legacy. By setting free the cop beaters, the President adds another. Appeared in the January 22, 2025, print edition as 'Trump Pardons the Jan. 6 Cop Beaters'.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2025/01/pardoning-capitol-rioters-is-no-way-to-restore-law-and-order/ Pardoning Capitol Rioters Is No Way to Restore Law and Order By THE EDITORS January 21, 2025 8:58 PM The riot at the Capitol on January 6, 2021, was a national disgrace. It was also a crime. Protesters physically forced Congress to adjourn its constitutionally mandated joint session and evacuate the building. There were assaults on police, theft, and an estimated $2.88 million in damage to property. A dozen police officers spent months recovering from injuries. Protesters who got inside the Capitol chanted death threats aimed at then-vice president Mike Pence. As happens when chaos is unleashed, bad things follow. One protester was shot to death by a Capitol police officer while at the head of an angry mob pushing through a door. Three other protesters died of natural causes at the scene: two of heart attacks and a third from amphetamine intoxication after being trampled by a crowd. An apparently healthy Capitol Police officer who was pepper-sprayed during the riot collapsed eight hours later and died of a pair of strokes. No charges were brought for causing any of these deaths (as much as Democrats and the press tried to imply that they were criminal homicides), and only the shooting was tied by a medical examiner to the riot, but they reflect the danger of a runaway mob scene. Criminal prosecutions rightly followed, and Trump himself was forced to condemn the riot in a speech on January 7, 2021, calling it an outrageous display of “violence, lawlessness, and mayhem,” and promised, “to those who broke the law: You will pay.” Some 600 participants were charged with assaulting, resisting, or impeding police, including almost 200 rioters who carried weapons and a handful convicted of seditious conspiracy. But the broad net that was cast could not have contrasted more strongly with how Merrick Garland’s Department of Justice and Democratic prosecutors dealt with other riots and political disorders. The Justice Department deployed extraordinary and disproportionate resources to punish the protesters, holding many of them in extended pretrial detention far from home for months. The Supreme Court concluded that one of the major federal statutes deployed against the January 6 defendants had been strained by prosecutors beyond its language. At the same time, DOJ was going easy on George Floyd–era rioters, including a mob that caused the Secret Service on one occasion to evacuate then-president Donald Trump. It dragged its feet on providing security to Supreme Court justices while their houses were ringed with protesters. Charges weren’t brought against the mobs that invaded the Capitol during the Brett Kavanaugh hearings in 2018. Democratic prosecutors went soft on mobs that took over college campuses and terrorized Jewish students. Democratic senators celebrated mobs that invaded the Tennessee statehouse in 2023, just as they did in Wisconsin in 2011. The list goes on. Trump supporters quite reasonably noticed that the justice system was not applying the same standard across the board. Monday, in one of his first-day official acts, Trump granted “a full, complete and unconditional pardon” to over 1,500 people convicted in the January 6 prosecutions, exempting only 14 of the worst defendants, who were given commutations of their sentences. He ordered that all remaining prosecutions be terminated and those in prison be released immediately. Trump had discussed doing something like this during the campaign, but its sweeping breadth undercut prior reassurances by Vice President JD Vance that, “if you committed violence on that day, obviously you shouldn’t be pardoned.” Trump will be able to use the political cover provided by the abusive last-minute pardons handed out by Joe Biden. While Biden’s scandalous pardons will undercut the credibility of Democrats’ criticisms of the January 6 pardons, they don’t justify them. Societies must resist disorder, riots, political violence, and mob rule. They can and must use the criminal justice system to punish those who engage in such acts. The more dramatic the offense, the greater the case for exemplary punishment. The real scandal is not that violent rioters were charged on this occasion but that they were let off on so many other occasions. Imitating a mistake only compounds the original mistake. While there may have been individual cases among those convicted of violent acts that would warrant a pardon or commutation after a thorough review of the facts, Trump should have drawn the line there. That is not to say that all 1,500 pardons were equally bad. Undoubtedly, given the unequal justice applied and the vast resources used against these defendants, there were individual injustices that ought to have been met with clemency, although our preference would still have been for a review of individual cases rather than a blanket pardon. Moreover, given that many of the non-violent participants have been subjected to four years of draining legal process, it is likely that they have been punished enough by now, so the harm done by pardoning them is not extensive. Pardons have sometimes been used in the past — in some cases wisely, in others not — to turn the page on divisive episodes of civil disorder and disobedience. George Washington pardoned the ringleaders of the Whiskey Rebellion after dispersing their followers. Andrew Johnson pardoned thousands of Confederates. Jimmy Carter mass-pardoned Vietnam draft dodgers. In none of those cases, however, was the president who issued the pardons himself on the side of the malefactors he pardoned. Moreover, Washington’s example cannot easily be separated from its context at the end of an era of revolution in America. Trump may calculate that Americans have moved on from January 6, that those in favor of the pardons cared a lot more than those who criticized them, and that he could bury the news amidst the whirlwind of activity in the start of his administration. Perhaps his conscience, too, bothered him as so many were punished for following his lead on that fateful day. But if even one of the pardoned defendants commits an act of political violence in the future, he could live to rue this act. Even if he doesn’t, it is a poor start for an administration that has pledged to end the partisanship of law enforcement and restore public order. THE EDITORS comprise the senior editorial staff of the National Review magazine and website.
and you said "I mean, all these guys have been in prison for like 4 years now or something?". so you think that 4 years is appropriate punishment for beating up cops. also, you are a liar when you say "he worst video anyone could produce was of someone pushing a cop with his own shield or something."
Pro-Trump police union condemns president’s Jan. 6 pardons: ‘A dangerous message’ https://nypost.com/2025/01/22/us-news/pro-trump-police-union-blasts-presidents-jan-6-pardons/