Trivial note - 2005 WS ties for closest sweep ever

its really amazing

4-5 different pitches and we could have been the ones sweeping the Sox

Rich Lord said today that it wasn't even close

 

True... but even if you split all the breaks evenely between the two teams, Chicago likely still finds a way to win in a game 7... and the end result is essentially going to be the same. (plus, losing a game 7 would actually cause more heartache for me... b/c then I could really analyze every single pitch and every single out as a reason why we weren't world champions).

Also, I think I could do a better job than Rich Lord... and I'm serious. The guy still gets his news from the 10 pm local... and if they don't cover it, he's likely not going to know a damn thing about it.

 

Is it just me or does nowhere outside the local news give the Astros any kudos for a great series? Or, for that matter, did the Chicago players even congratulate us on a close series? I think I saw one Chicago player say something after they won about "giving us credit". I saw a few Sox fans in various forums congratulate us.

I guess when you lose the World Series...your not supposed to get any credit...regardless of where you came from. I just thought there would be some article somewhere on the other side that might give us some kind of credit for a great series. Instead, it's all about the Sox and their destiny. Usually, there is that one article buried among the many other articles where it is about giving the Astros some credit for a hard fought series. I see none of that except at Chron.com.

Please point me to where I can find anyone outside of Chron.com giving us some sort of credit. Yes, this is to make me feel better.

 

Would you rather have been swept by an average of 8 runs a game or 2 runs a game?

 

Rich Lord has actually gotten worse.

Listen, you don't have to be a homer to be on sportsradio. You shouldn't be. But how about being a little more than mildly interested in the outcome? It's like he doesn't care how the Astros, Rockets or Texans do, at all. He's holding down a job, and that's it.

I heard Lance today say he's a Houston sports fan. That he grew up here. That it hurt to see them lose. But he's pretty objective, nonetheless. He'll say when they have weaknesses...he'll make fun of his teams when they suck. But at least he cares. Rich can't do that...because he doesn't care. And it makes for really crappy radio, frankly, in a local market. For a national host...no big deal...but for a local host?? come on.

 

I was listening to national sports radio late last night after the game and they said it was the "best" sweep they've ever seen and it could have easily been Houston with the 4-0 advantage. Seriously alot of you Houston fans need to get over this whole lack of respect crap. Its so old and tired.

 

Actually, Xenon, how can it be so old and tired if the series ended just yesterday? Contrary to what your talking about, I'm simply looking for some articles from the other side that offers up some quotes from players about our side or has some info in it about how the non-winning side put up a good fight. Excuse me for caring...but it's nice to read stuff from the opposing view that gives credit to the other side about a great series. It makes the losers feel a little better. Yes, there has been talk of the small margin of victory and the small margin between runs scored on the national shows. I was looking for something specifically from the Chicago side. I thought it was given that at least one article would have some quotes or something about the other side they just beat up on and not just how clutch and great they were in the series. It's okay if those quotes and articles do not exist. I just thought they might. What your talking about is a little more deep than what I'm talking about. The Astros have gotten respect for the season they had and where they went. As far as the series, I was looking for a little feedback from the opposition. So, sue me if you don't like it.

 

for once, Im going to disagree with you there

I think Rich Lord DOES care, but somehow, he doesn't want to admit it, or refuses to do so as not to jeopardize his reputation of "not caring"

the cat was out of the bag a few days ago ......someone (maybe Rich himself) said that Rich was so into one of the games against the Cards, that he screamed himself hoarse

 

A sweep is a sweep, not matter how you look at it. It stinks and was embarassing.

 

Actually, I think that a close sweep is even worse. It's one thing to have a vastly superior opponent run over you. But it's worse to have victory within your grasp, only to choke in the end. The former says something about your talent, the latter says something about your character.

 

Here, here. It's almost as old as the Cub fan schtick. The Astros got lots of love and respect.

And as far as "credit for a great series" goes, they were great games but 0-4 ain't a "great series". Credit for getting there, credit for coming back from the dead, I'm all for. But credit for the Astros' performance the last 4 games? Na-ah.

 

wow..maybe that's it, then. i just know he says over and over again that he's not a fan and that his teams are up north.

 

BS. Why can't it say something about *their* character? Why does it always have to be so negative?? Because it *doesn't*, that's why.

After the regular season comeback on the "Pujols bomb" survival, it's utterly ridiculous to question this team's character.

 

okay, so it was a bad series then? whatever. i thought it was a great series with every game decided basically in the last inning of play. everyone thought the astros would come back once we got home and pushed the initial game to extra innings. if you look at it strictly from the standpoint of 0-4, then it was a terrible series. but, that is not how i see it...at all.

 

Yeah I hear you. I noticed on national non-sports news when the Chisox beat the Angels all they talked about was how historic it was for them to finally get back into the series. I think it was Nightline that even did a whole segment on them comparing life in Chicago in 1917 and 1959 with life now to illustrate how much things have changed since the Chisox went to the Series. Barely a peep though about the Stros making it or any mention about how this was the first time the Stros or any Texas team made it to the Series.

Unfortunatly I guess it could've been worst the Cards where a complete afterthought to all of the coverage of the World Series last year and even before the first game was played the media and almost all of the country had annointed the Bosox.

 

My manager at work (big White Sox fan - legitimately from Chicago) pointed this out to me this morning. He was semi-gracious when he presented with a brand new hand broom.

But even he admitted that a couple of swings of the bat and the Astros would have swept.

 

Choke is not quite the word I would use and no way you can question the character of this ballclub, not after everything they've been through this series. I would rather not lose at all, but if a sweep it is, then you can't get much closer and hard fought than this one. A couple breaks our way and we win.

I look at the 4-0 sweep and I"m not embarrassed in the least, because any knowledgable fan will know that it was a helluva lot closer than that.

 

I see where you're coming from, and I didn't mean to split hairs with you. They were indeed all great baseball games.