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Trevor Ariza seems to do well in Contract Years

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Air Langhi, Jul 21, 2014.

  1. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    Trevor Ariza seems to do well when its time for a new contract. His stats the year before we signed him were pretty good. His playoffs were awesome and we gave him a lot of money. I thought he sucked when he got here, but I think he was asked to do something he wasn't going to able to do, be a primary guy. However his stats the years after we traded were not that good. Time for another contract and his stats get good again.
     
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    Hopefully a legitimate chance a championship run will motivate him to play for something other than money.
     
  3. crash5179

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    What happened in 2012/2013? He seemed to do pretty good that year too. Plus, the when he came to us from the Lakers he had been in a reserve role not a starting role.
     
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    He did pretty damn well the year before last too but his minutes were down. In fact, I'd interpret the data to say he's steadily improving after having too much thrown on his plate in Houston's first run.
     
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    He'll be a nice compliment to Harden and Howard. He won't be asked to do too much but he'll give us everything we need.
     
  6. Air Langhi

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    His PER was 14. The average player has a PER of 15.
     
  7. Remii

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    He was coming off the bench in 2012/2013.
     
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    he really thrives as a 3rd option offensively and I think playing behind Wall, Beal and Nene set him up to thrive. not sure is his Rockets and Hornets numbers are indicative of what he'll do here. Those Hornets teams were a trash pile and the Rockets asked him to do too much the first time around.
     
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    Shane Battier never posted more than a 13 with the Rockets, but he was a good fit for his teammates and contributed nonstatistically on defense. PER traditionally undervalues perimeter D.

    We didn't sign Ariza hoping for an efficient third star offensively - he's an overqualified 3 and D man and that's what you want alongside H&H.
     
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    This is likely his last "big" contract, I expect him to continue performing well. Plus, if Morey gets his 3rd star, we won't need Ariza to put up "contract year" numbers
     
  11. HTown_TMac

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    Can't compare Ariza to when we had him before, and I think he is very good player inbetween contract years also. I think he will thrive with us, as long as he continues to play defense and is able to hit that three point shot and cut to the goal. That's all we really need from him.
     
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    Who doesnt
     
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    Think of Ariza as a more athletic, longer Shane Battier whose value is not as tied into his ability to read a scouting report or offer elite-level interview quotes.

    Also his value is not as tied into injury-prone superstars. That will help Ariza a lot too.
     
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    More undeniably statistic evidence to help me cope with the loss of Parsons. Thanks clutchfans, Morey must be stopped
     
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    the Spurs seem to do well in championship years...hrrrmmmmm coiencidence?
     
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    Over rated stat that does nothing to value defense.

    Oddly enough both Chandler and Trevor had a PER of 15.9 last season.
     
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    So?
    - He still played the same on defense
    - He hit almost 37 percent of his 3pt shots
    - He was still a very productive player when on the court
     
  18. gmoney411

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    The whole contract year thing has been overblown. Prior to the 08-09 season Ariza had never been a regular starter and even that year he didn't start until the end. Shooting 46% when you shot 53% and 50% the two years prior isn't a breakout year. The only thing that was a breakout for Ariza in 08-09 was the playoff run.

    The truth is that before the 08-09 season Ariza had never been a 3 point shooter. In his first two seasons after that he shot 33% with the Rockets and then 30% with the Hornets. Since then he has gradually improved his percentages in each of the last 3 years. Plenty of players have improved their 3 point shooting over the course of their careers so there is no real reason to believe Ariza's shooting last year was a fluke.
     
  19. bmd

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    Look at his stats per 100 possessions so that it's on an even playing field.

    His ppg are roughly the same.

    His percentages have steadily increased since he left Houston.

    He's become a better, more efficient player.

    Him being called a "contract player" is a myth.
     
  20. Salvy

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    As long as Ariza does not start saying that The Rockets need to look for a third star no more because he is finally here then I think its an upgrade over the previous position holder.

    Anything else like focusing on basketball over modeling/not getting offended/not saying he is the best player at any given position against Portland/not attempting to seduce other players in the team and not allowing clutch three pointers that eliminate his team from the playoffs is a plus in my books....
     

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