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Traveling in Space

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by JayZ750, Jan 8, 2002.

  1. JayZ750

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    Out of curiousity-

    How long does it take to travel to thhe planet's - Mercury, Vvenus, Mars, Jupiter, etc?

    What is the most likely way to iimprove this time -- (whoops: edit)as in a fuel source?

    The reason I ask is because I just learned that there is some kind of oceaan on Europa, a moon of Jupiter I beleive, which scientists think is one of the more likely places there couuld be some kind of life forms oout there.
     
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  2. Lynus302

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    I don't think using ass for a fuel source is the best idea.
     
  3. A-Train

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    Now, what comes out of the ass, however, is a different story...

    Let's see, the distance between Earth and Jupiter is approximately 390,600,000 miles...Travelling at the new speed limit of 55 mph, you'll get to Jupiter in about 7,101,818 hours, assuming you don't stop for sleep, bathroom breaks, or fuel (ass or otherwise)...

    I'd take a lunch, if I were you...
     
  4. boomboom

    boomboom I GOT '99 PROBLEMS

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    Think again...Oliver Miller!
     
  5. PhiSlammaJamma

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    I believe this is what "Ginger" will be used for.
     
  6. Lynus302

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    Hey, he never said anything about methane being used as a possible fuel source. He just said "ass in a fuel source."

    Maybe J-Lo's ass could get there: just sit on one cheek and have her turn around and bam, you're there.
     
  7. Joe Joe

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    Think of this as a "South Park" episode, I am Cartman talking, and you...the reader...as....who else....Kenny:D:

    Cartman: "I don't think using ass for a fuel source is the best idea...I can't understand what my Mom was doing in there? Hmmmmmmm......do you know, Kenny?"

    Kenny: "heeba jeeba jabba yadda yo ho"

    Cartman: "Maybe they could use something as a fuel source on Uranus, Kenny. Isn't that how you and your poor parents stay warm in the winter? :D." (hee...hee...hee............hee hee hee HAH)

    Cartman: "You suck, Kenny. I hate you, Kenny..."

    Cartman: "Scew u guys....going home." :=> :=> (finger pointing)


    Postface: This was purely my insane dribble dribbling out onto the form of virtual enlightenment. And, deep down, I would really like to be a comedy writer on South Park :). Sorry if I bent the topic too much...haha.
     
  9. Wakko67

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    I'm glad someone brought this up. I recently read different articles on not just Europa, but Saturn's moon Titan and another Jupiter moon with possibilities.

    Pretty interesting stuff.

    As far as Europa goes, it is covered in ice, but if it has a hot core like Earth then there could very well be water deep under the ice and life in that water.
     
  10. R0ckets03

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    Europa is way too into the future. We havent even found solid evidence of water on Mars yet.
     
  11. treeman

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    There's rock-solid evidence for water on Mars. Only question is whether or not the polar caps are CO2 Water or H2O water... And the permafrost is likely H2O water.

    IO (pronounced I-O) is the other Jovian moon of interest. Although it probably resembles a hell-broken plane of ne-return than Gehenna...

    Europa almost certainly has a liquid-water core, heated by thermal vents. Cracks on its ice surface indicate that (the cracks could not arise if there was no internal heat involved). Another of those wierd anomolies we won't know about for sure until we send a probe...

    I love this solar system. :)
     
  12. ROCKETBOOSTER

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    you guys ever check out enterprisemission.com?

    thats a real good Mars anomolies website.
     
  13. Johnny Rocket

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    Didn't do to well in chemistry did you? ;)
    I hate to break it to you but there is no such thing as CO<sub>2</sub> water.
     
  14. Ottomaton

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    You make it sound like there's no rational explanation avalable treeman. It's generally accepted that the gravitational tides caused by Jupiter's imense size and the orbit of other moons are the cause for the thermal activity. References here.

    Calisto is a lesser known Jovian moon with a liquid water ocean under an icy surface. It also is the largest planatary satelite in the solar system, and this additional mass would seem to bode well for the possibility of life.

    It should also be noted, however, that Jupiter generates an imense magnetic field, many times more than any other planet in the solar system. The life that evolved in this environment would be at least somewhat differerent because of this.

    As far as propultion, the key is that in order to get a traditional rocket to even Mars, you have to load it down with many times its weight in fuel. There's a Catch 22, however, because this weight is more mass that you have to push.

    Unfortunately, the two currently feasable solutions to this involve solar sails, in which you strectch out a big 'ol mirror and use sunlight as wind, or what is known as a bussard ram-jet which is basicaly a big magnetic field in front to suck up interstellar hydrogen. The problem with both of these is that they are incredibly slow to accelerate, and would probably be better suited to going to another solar system.

    The compromise is an ion drive which magnetically accelerates the atoms of a gas to high speeds. Since F=M*A, by accelerating these little suckers to superspeed, you get decent thrust. The benefit is that you cary perhaps 1/10th as much fuel. The downside is you can't accelerate quickly.


    BTW Johnny Rocket, I think he intended to say ice, not water.
     

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