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Trade talk involving Artest is heating up

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  1. BigSherv

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    http://www.sacbee.com/100/story/676033.html


    Trade talk involving Artest is heating up


    By Sam Amick - samick@sacbee.com
    Published 12:00 am PST Thursday, January 31, 2008

    The Ron Artest era in Sacramento might be nearing an end.

    While the notion of the Kings small forward being traded has long been possible, it began to appear even more likely that he could be gone by the Feb. 21 trade deadline after a day in which both Artest and basketball president Geoff Petrie spoke like two parties not long for one another.

    Artest – who said for the first time on Jan. 19 that he is likely to opt out of his contract this season and become a free agent – told The Bee's Martin McNeal that he didn't foresee a long-term future in Sacramento. Petrie, meanwhile, indicated that he and Artest have had recent conversations in which the reality that he could be moved before the deadline was reiterated.

    Perhaps knowing that making one public statement is easier than making 29 phone calls to each of the league's general managers, Petrie made it clear that the player known as the one of the best two-way talents in the game is as available as ever if the deal is right.

    "I've talked to Ron twice in the last two weeks about a lot of different things," Petrie said during halftime of the Kings' 105-91 win over Charlotte at Arco Arena on Wednesday night. "The biggest thing for him and everybody else is to keep playing as well as you can. Everybody knows the trading deadline is coming up. Like I've said before, we're not averse to trading anybody if it benefits us in some way and our future, and I think (Artest) is comfortable with that."

    What Petrie may not be comfortable with is the notion of losing Artest for nothing in return. In essence, the situation is similar to the factors that led to Artest's trade to Sacramento in the first place. As the trade deadline approached in late January, 2006 former Kings forward Peja Stojakovic was also approaching a possible free agency season. If the deadline comes and goes with Artest in a Kings uniform – and if Petrie has no plans to sign Artest to a long-term deal – then his last option would be a sign-and-trade this summer.

    Or, as is more likely the case, he could find a suitor who can offer some combination he desires. The Kings have long been looking to upgrade their power forward position, and they are also looking for draft picks and expiring contracts that could help clear salary cap space before the summer of 2009.

    The Kings are believed to have had recent discussions with Denver regarding Artest, and could possibly be pursuing forward Nene Hilario. While Artest will make $7.4 million this season, the trade would work as it falls within the league rules of contracts coming within 20 percent of one another as Nene – in his sixth season – will earn $8.84 million this season in his contract that goes through 2011 with a player option for the 2011-12 campaign. Hilario, though, is battling testicular cancer and hasn't played since Jan. 7.

    New York and Miami have shown interest Artest in the past, but circumstances continue to make those destinations less likely as Artest's next stop via trade. Not only is the Knicks' front office in shambles with the uncertain status of coach and team president Isiah Thomas, but the organization has been unwilling to give up a player the Kings covet in third-year forward David Lee. Miami and the Kings are not believed to have had recent discussions about Artest, and the Heat's horrific season has done little to increase the likelihood that they'd be interested in a short-term asset like Artest.

    When asked of the latest status of trade talks, Petrie said, "They say 'Where there's sparks, there's fire?' Well we're still at the stage where you're rubbing two sticks together."

    Has the phone been ringing more, he was asked? "A little bit," he answered.

    Artest has been on an erratic spell of late, with his public displays including the on-floor tirade at coach Reggie Theus while playing Detroit on Jan. 18 and his bizarre antics at Utah on Friday that led to his ejection after two technicals. Privately, sources close to the team said he has exploded at Theus numerous times in recent weeks while growing frustrated with the season and the first-year coach.

    When asked if Artest's recent behavior increased his desire to move Artest, Petrie said, "Not really. No, I don't really think so. I really don't. I know he started to lose it in that Utah game a little bit, but he was fine in Seattle and (Wednesday night). He's volatile."

    Theus said he remains pleased with Artest's contributions.

    "I think Ron has been, for the most part, a great teammate – for the most part," he said. "We've had a couple of incidents, but nothing I would call lasting. This past week has been a tough week for him, but that's been the extent of it I think.

    "I'm a little thick-skinned that way. Those things don't bother me. We stay focused on what we have to do. We deal with what we have to deal with, and we move on."

    The coming weeks will reveal whether Artest himself will be the one moving on.
     
  2. professorjay

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    Artest has been the alpha dog on every team he's been on so he's not averse to acting out. I'd be interested to see him play on a team w/ superstars where he knows he has to maintain some kind of reputation alongside better players.

    NY seems unlikely, but it would be hilarious to see Artest and Isiah on the same sideline together. I'd get my popcorn ready for that.
     
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    ohhh lets get him. We can have Mad Max Chapter II!!
     
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    Besides, Adleman likes him and Artest respects Coach A.
     
  5. texanskan

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    snyder+battier+james+head+Alston for Bibby and Artest works

    Bibby/Brooks/Francis
    T-Mac/Wells/Francis
    Artest/Wells/Novak
    Scola/Landry/Hayes
    Yao/Deke
     
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    That would be a top tier team! Frightening at that. Watch out Boston..here we come.
     
  7. mogrod

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    If the Rockets want Artest, I think it would have to be something along the lines of:

    Battier/Snyder/Landry/Francis/Bonzi for Artest/Abdur-Rahim
    (they cut Francis and Bonzi)

    That still might not do it for them (still might come just short of matching salary as well) but they would get cap relief with the expiring contracts of Bonzi, Francis and Snyder while getting rid of Shareef's deal; getting a nice, young PF/C in Landry and still gets a good, veteran in Battier to help mold the young guys through the next few seasons.
     
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    I'd have to say Landry is an untouchable. All upside and cheap.
     
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    Battier/Brooks/2008 #1(unprotected) for Artest

    The Kings get a valuable player in Battier you they may look to shop elsewhere for someone a little younger and he's signed for a reasonable deal for a few more season if they can't find the right deal at the deadline. Brooks is a young player who has potential if they do trade Bibby. The #1 may not end up in the lottery but hey.... RIGHT NOW IT IS!!! Plus, I'm sure it will be right out of the lottery if the Rocets do make the playoffs.
     
  10. texanskan

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    of course, I was messing around with the trade machine
     
  11. mogrod

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    Yea, I wouldn't go as far as saying he is untouchable but I agree. But, I would have to believe, with all the talk of the Kings trying to acquire a young PF, that he would have to thrown in for the Rockets to have any shot at Artest.

    Saying all that, I don't see Morey making that big a move this year.
     
  12. solid

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    I thought the Maloof brothers wouldn't trade with Adelman.
     
  13. Carl Herrera

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    Nene? That's nut!
     
  14. Ziggy

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    Artest in Denver would be nice. 2 top 5 defenders and 2 top 5 scorers on the same team?!!! If Karl can't deliver with that squad I know a defensive minded former Rockets coach who could.
     
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    There is no way the Rockets give up our best defender, our future at PG, and our first round pick next year (we picked Brooks this year, so that would be our last 2 first rounders) for a known head-case who won't even re-sign with us. Come on now......
     
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    i agree...if the team can buy into jvg's philosophy that will be a legitimate finals contender
     
  17. Air Langhi

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    I would do it. Artest is a better defender than shane. Brooks and #1 would hurt, but you got to give a little to get something back. Even if we have a high draft pick we won't pick the obvious best guy on the board (GAY, Rashard) and pick some euro who sucks.
     
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    If Bullard is right and Francis's knee is career ending. Assuming Francis will retire...

    Hayes, Bonzi, Francis, Snyder for Artest

    Bonzi. Expiring. Kings did offer him $36M. Trading for him they get his bird rights.

    Francis. Potentially expiring. Will most likely opt out than play for a team in rebuilding mode.

    Hayes. 5th best defensive PF in league. Locked into a cap friendly contract.

    Snyder. Expiring.
     
  19. JayZ750

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    LOL. Mean, but funny...and true. That's a r****ded deal. The Kings would be better off letting Artest leave.

    If I'm the Kings, I'd ask for a Artest, Kenny Thomas trade for Nene, Najera, Kleiza. And even then, it is still a tough go, because of how long Nene has left on that contract, given he is ALWAYS injured, in one way or another.

    Denver might be reluctant to let go of Kleiza, but this line-up should be sick:

    PG: Iverson
    SG: Anthony
    SF: Artest
    PF: Martin
    C: Camby

    When teams go small, you can play Artest at PF and replace Martin with a true PG.
     
  20. JayZ750

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    This sounds nice and all, but if all the Kings get are expiring contracts, why not just do nothing and let Ron opt out?
     

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