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[Trade Suggestion] Rafer & Swift for Harrington

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RocketFire, May 25, 2006.

  1. RocketFire

    RocketFire Member

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    It completely makes sense. Simply, Atlanta needs a PG and they will not pay a Forward alot of money since they are loaded at that place. Houston trades Swift because he doesn't fit and Rafer is not a great shooter. Without a great shooting PG we are not going anywhere. So my idea is,

    Houston trades Swift and Alston
    Atlanta signs and trades Harington.

    Harington will be happy because he got money and he is getting to play in a good team.

    We can sign Mike James with MLE for the PG spot or split the MlE b/w Jumaine Jones and spanoulis.

    In the draft we can select one of the 3 PGs(has to be able to shoot 3s) or if Roy, Gay or Carney are available.

    Last we can use our TE to find a servicable backup for the needed position.

    Option A lineup

    Yao/Mutombo
    Harington/Howard
    T-mac/Haringon/Bogans
    Wesley/MJ/Head
    MJ/drafted PG/Head

    for height
    Yao
    Howard
    Harington
    T-mac
    MJ

    All 5 players can shoot score, and rebound.

    Option B
    Yao/Mutombo
    Harington/Howard
    T-mac/Jumaine Jones/Gay, Carney or Roy
    Wesley/Roy,Gay or Carney/Head
    Spanoulis/Roy/Head
     
  2. Matt78777

    Matt78777 Member

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    I don't think it's a bad idea, but there are a lot of "ifs" in there.

    First, we need to get atlanta to sign harrington for a reasonable contract
    then, we need to make sure we fill significant holes at the 2 and 1
    This would require convincing mike james to sign with us, and/or drafting marcus williams, rondo, foy, roy or carney.

    If we could get all that done my only reservation is that harrington has a history of being injury proned. There are only so many injury proned player you can have.
     
  3. ROXTXIA

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    This is one of those threads that hints at "actual trade proposal" except that there are only two replies and many dozens of views....meaning it's a trade "idea" rather than a "proposal".

    Yes, we could use Harrington, but he can go to Chicago free and clear of waiting for a sign and trade (if the Bulls still have interest, and why wouldn't they?) Better to find players who aren't about to negotiate a new contract, but you never know.
     
  4. RocketFire

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    I checked the salary comparisons and the amount Harrington is asking almost equals the salary of Rafer and Swift. so i don't think we should have a problem. Now the question is why would ATL do it? Well why not. They are getting a point and a forward.

    There shouldn't be no ifs with our MLE. If not Mike James then it will be another SG or PG. Players like Matt harpring and Bozi comes to mind. If not then we can still split our MLE for VSPan and another good SG. If we draft a PG then we should use MLE on SG. If we draft Roy, Carney, or Gay then we should use MLE on Cassell e.t.c.

    So it would not be a problem if you draft a SG or PG in draft. We can use our MLE and TE to get a player needed at a position.

    What i like about the trade is that it will give Yao the space to work w/o sacrificing our rebounds.
     
  5. Bogey

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    Who would distribute the ball? That is not MJ's stong point and I would rather not rely on a rookie as our starting PG.
     
  6. ToothYanker

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    Both James and Harrington on the same team w/ Yao and Tmac? Yao and Tmac already take over 80% of the Rockets shots so unless James and Harrington, who've both had breakout years and who both need a lot of touches are feeling extremely generous and out of character, there'd be some chemistry problems IMO. Hell, individually, both James and Harrington took more shots per game than Yao this season and we all know how Gundy ball is a high possession chuckfest.
     
  7. ToothYanker

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    Have you guys ever seen that episode of Fresh Prince about Will and Carlton's basketball team? MJ is like Will minus the 30 foot gym full of preppy white kids. I wouldn't at all be surprised if we see Tmac hip-checking MJames and stealing the ball out of frustration only to heave a half court shot at the wrong basket.
     
  8. TriCkz

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    Well if they want to win a championship there going to have to make a sacrifice.
     
  9. hooroo

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    They had two SF's in Harrington and Williams playing PF.
     
  10. arjun

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    it wud leave a bigger hor in our horrible back court
     
  11. DonkeyMagic

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    wow, a trade idea that makes sense. My concern is that harrington has been 'the man' on a bad team for a long time and i am not sure if he can/would play as the 3rd fiddle. But there is not denying his talent and ability.

    Another problem is how much he would want sign for...my guess is a starting salary of 8 mill.

    Assuming that trade, i suppose you expect foye to be drafted to fill the void at pg?
     
  12. Yetti

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    I think your thinking on this matter is incorrect. Our Point Guard does not have to be a 'great' shooter because our team is build around the BIG MANS GAME, although our Point Guard does need to be a 'great' playmaker and defender!
     
  13. B-ball freak

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    Yetti, why don't you see that the big man's game is only effective if there are shooters around him?
     
  14. No Worries

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    Why would the Hawks trade Harington?

    If the Hawks want a 1 so bad, they could sign Mike James.
     
  15. DonkeyMagic

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    hypothetically, they could want a passer not a scorer. They have a lot of young guns that need to be fed the ball, not starved from it.
     
  16. New Jack

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    If the Hawks want a distributor, they could just draft Marcus Williams or sign a point guard like Speedy Claxton with their MLE. Point guards the caliber of Rafer Alston are a dime a dozen.
     
  17. thumbs

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    The buzz is that Harrington is leaving the Hawks anyway as a free agent. Under this scenario they get something instead of nothing, or at least that is the presumption.
     
  18. No Worries

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    So if Swift and Rafer were on another team and they were offered up in a trade, would you really want them on your team?

    Harrington is a big catch in the FA market. Are there any teams better than the Hawks that can pay him? You gotta think he stays in Atlanta for the money and the better team.
     
  19. Honey Bear

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    Why would the Rockets trade FOR Harrington? Poor rebounder, horrible defender, just doesn't fit our needs even if he plays the 3.
     
  20. Yetti

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    Of course I realize this fact but a big mans game only works if there is someone willing to get him AND THE OTHER SHOOTERS the BALL. In the case of a playmaker point guard shooting is only a secondary attribute. I was not decrying the proposed trade only the philosophy that a point guard MUST be a good shooter as a primary attribute. In opposition to my first thoughts, considering the way the game is developing it might be even better to have a Playmaker Point Guard that can also shoot well.
     

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