Here it goes. Cuttino Mobley/Eddie Griffin for Jason Williams/Stromile Swift ? We need a PG who can pass the hell out of it and Jwill is avging 9 assists this season and is leading the league in assists/turnover ratio. He has been disciplined. What do you guys think?
I'd take Jason Williams by himself for Eddie and Cat. With his new coach's influence, J Will has turned himself into a very respectable PG. He still loves to shoot from the 3pt land, but on the Rockets, that wouldn't be nessicarly a bad thing. btw, Swift has really come into his own this year. He would be a hugh improvement at PF.
First...then Williams escapes from Hubie Brown and joins the Rockets...the team where no one listens. WTF. He'll forget all his good passing habits and return to his old ballhogging style. OR NOT. He's become assist mania. He and Steve would be streetball combo. I don't know. Defense would be horrible. But we could play zone all day. Stromile Swift and Yao Ming? WHOOO. Even better blocking partners than he and Grif. But Swift is worse on offense than Eddie. Sure. Jerry West makes another great trade
Houston trades: PF Eddie Griffin (8.7 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 24.4 minutes) SG Cuttino Mobley (17.6 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 2.8 apg in 41.7 minutes) Houston receives: PG Jason Williams (12.2 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 8.3 apg in 31.6 minutes) PF Stromile Swift (9.3 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 0.7 apg in 21.7 minutes) Change in team outlook: -4.8 ppg, -1.6 rpg, and +5.1 apg. Memphis trades: PG Jason Williams (12.2 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 8.3 apg in 31.6 minutes) PF Stromile Swift (9.3 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 0.7 apg in 21.7 minutes) Memphis receives: PF Eddie Griffin (8.7 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 75 games) SG Cuttino Mobley (17.6 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 2.8 apg in 71 games) Change in team outlook: +4.8 ppg, +1.6 rpg, and -5.1 apg. TRADE DECLINED There were BYC players involved in this trade, so this trade is subject to the BYC provisions of the CBA. Due to Memphis and Houston being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Memphis and Houston had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did not happen here (only Memphis met the condition). This trade does not satisfy the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You have been assigned Trade ID number 996156
Stromile Swift $3,639,000 Jason Williams $5,500,000 Cuttino Mobley $4,903,750 Eddie Griffin $2,161,920 How can we make it even?
Well they are getting our draft pick. Maybe they'll still have a big enough smile from that to accept the trade.
nice trade but w do not want steve to play 2 guard because he cant even guard PG you expect him to guard Kobe. C'mon
That's why we can stay in zone defense all day! Whooo! See...if we got Stromile Swift..that would be awesome. He would cover many of Yao's weaknesses. Swift's quickness replaces Yao's slowness. Them two in the center would be awesome. We could gamble on letting people take outside shots. And also...Francis and Williams. They could be very active on the perimeter on defense and get a bunch of steals... On offense. That's another problem. Of course...Jason and Steve would do nicely. But no shooters!!! Glen could start...but still. Not enough shooters. Jason Williams could be a very good guard for the Rockets. Too bad trade declined. I wish.
I'm a little suspicious that Jason Williams would go back to his natural tendencies, which is to play flash style basketball. Hubie's most likely told Williams to shape up or be benched. But, williams is a decent point guard if he wants to be.
Memphis would need a 3-way trade to get them a PG to replace Williams. And why would they trade Swift for EG? I don't think they would trade Williams for Mobley straight up.
Uh, it doesn't matter what the Grizzlies think, because those contracts are not 15% close to each other.
Person is a FA. And the Grizz wouldn't want any part of Moochie Norris. Nor would 27 other teams. The only way we could get rid of Moochie, is if we got a bad contract in return.
Then hell, lets get Person for next year. We need another shooter if we're getting rid of Mobley, which should be what we do. If we can't do that trade, then let's unload Mobley for a PG/SG, who can play both positions. GP is a free agent, maybe we could do a sign-and-trade deal with the Bucks? Mobley/EG for Payton?
I don't think we'll get rid of Mobley. Who will take him? His best use is as a 6th man on a good team, meaning we would end up having to settle for a backup player in return. I think too many people here overvalue Mobley's trade value. 6 ft 4 blackholes at SG are a dime a dozen in the NBA. Mobley has a lot more value with us, than he would on any decent team. Payton would have to settle for a lowball contract around 6-7 mill/year for an EG/Mobley trade to work out. I don't think any team has any use for Eddie Griffin, unless they want a tall guy to fix lightbulbs on a high ceiling.
How about this one: Houston trades: PF Maurice Taylor (8.4 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 1.0 apg in 20.6 minutes) SG Cuttino Mobley (17.6 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 2.8 apg in 41.7 minutes) PF Eddie Griffin (8.7 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 24.4 minutes) Houston receives: PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim (20.1 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 3.0 apg in 38.2 minutes) SF Dion Glover (9.6 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 1.8 apg in 24.6 minutes) Change in team outlook: -5.0 ppg, -1.7 rpg, and -0.1 apg. Atlanta trades: PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim (20.1 ppg, 8.4 rpg, 3.0 apg in 38.2 minutes) SF Dion Glover (9.6 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 1.8 apg in 24.6 minutes) Atlanta receives: PF Maurice Taylor (8.4 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 1.0 apg in 67 games) SG Cuttino Mobley (17.6 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 2.8 apg in 71 games) PF Eddie Griffin (8.7 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 1.1 apg in 75 games) Change in team outlook: +5.0 ppg, +1.7 rpg, and +0.1 apg. TRADE ACCEPTED I've always liked this one for the team. As a third option, SAR can be real effecient at either the 3 or 4. All of those people that say he can't play either, sheck and see how he has been doing since he's been in the league. Glover is basically cap filler. It seems like we're giving up alot, but it a lot like addition by subtraction. Taking away Mobleys' 14 shots and giving them to SAR increases points by 3. Taking away Taylor and Griffins shots increases Mings shot attempts. True that SAR isn't the shotblocker Griffin is, but he's 26 and more consistent than both Griffin and Taylor. Posey can be resigned for about mle, and Morris,Rice,and Nachbar can compete for the 3 spot. Offense should be changed and this team could be on the way.
Lee- ATL would be much more inclined to take Glen Rice than Mo Taylor. Their whole point of dumping SAR, is to trim payroll. Rice has only 1 year left. Mo has what, 4-5 years? It also depends on what they think of Terry, as a PG. Mobley and Terry are too similar of a player to be in the backcourt together. If Terry is considered a SG to them, then you can forget that entirely. Our best shot is Rice + cap filler for SAR. I have mixed feelings about that.
