Trade idea (not even a rumor) with NY revisited - Moochie/Griffin for Ward

I think I'd do it, this is one of the few good trade proposals I've seen. Moochie and Griffin have little value for the Rockets, meanwhile in the east they might be something for a team that really sucks and has no talent. Meanwhile Ward would be a pretty good backup. You could go with a three guard rotation then.

 

If they would, I would.

In other words.... I would.

Especially if we could get a second rounder or something too.

 

EG + NY Media = scary

 

I would in a heart beat. I think that Griffin would have to show some signs that he is going to try and come back this year for NY to pull the triger on a deal like that. Otherwise they would be trading Ward for Moochie.

 

dang we go from getting rashard to charlie ward for eddie griffin

 

I had a good post reply, and lost it with a bad keystroke and that damn autoscroll problem.

NY needs to move Ward before or at the deadline for talent.

Rockets need to move EG at deadline too.

Is getting rid of Moochie the best that we can do in trade? If Ward can play it's just a bonus.

We also have the trade exception. We also have Cat as expendable, with Jackson, Francis, AG, and Pike under contract and able to play effectively.

I think we're going to be able to do a bit more than just exit Moochie with our trade chips. There are other good players available now; there will be developments as the deadline approaches. Prepare the deal in January, barring injuries. Show the bait in early Feb., then deal.

I'd like a NY deal a lot better if Kurt Thomas were involved.

 

Good Idea for the Rockets but I don't see why the Knicks would want to do it. They're already overloaded with forwards and aging point guards.

 

how many years after this one is moochie under contract??

 

New York is also looking to get rid of Othella, maybe a Mooch/Griffin/ManBoobs for Ward/Harrington?

 

Interesting idea.... I have wanted the Rockets to acquire a guard in the mold of Charlie Ward for a while now. A steady PG that can hit from the outside, play solid defense and not turn it over a lot. In addition, Othella Harrington would thrive under JVG imo. I dont see any reason why he couldnt be a solid 10-8 type of player with 25 MPG or so. The Rockets do need a steady guard in the backcourt and some help in the frontcourt.

I would rather make this type of deal than something massive that will break up the core of this team. This team has a few minor holes that it needs to fill but trading any of the key components (including Mobley would be a step back imo). I have been very critical of Cuttino in the past, but thus far I have felt he is responding very well to JVG and is becoming a key contributor to this ballclub. Van Gundy is helping Mobley develop into more than just a scorer and become more of a two way threat for the Rockets. Mobley is doing a better job picking his spots, making less errors and playing excellent defense.

Despite the disastrous performance against Toronto, I still think the Rockets are going to be a major player in the West this season. The offense has become ragged very quickly, but this group of players still plays extremely hard and plays tough defense.

 

Thje only upside of this deal is bidding adieu to lovable, but can't play, Mooch. Ward is better, but certainly not either wonderful or much of an answer.

If O came here and got 25 MPG this team would be in a world of hurt, IMHO.

 

I like this trade idea. It has definite possibilities. I might be one of the few who believe that some of our pieces will be moved soon, once players return from injury/gobbling anti-inflammatories.

But you know what I would do? (Not sure that the other teams would.) Make that Mooch/EG trade for Charlie Ward and then send his expiring contract with Man-Boobs (whose contract expires in a year) to Golden State for Nick Van Exel.

Golden State wants the cap-space (although, to be sure, they might have delusions of grabbing Yao-za: fat chance).

Bring NVE home. Then make whatever alternate moves are necessary. We have a decent team, but we're not quite there yet, are we?

Apologies that I mention "trade this guy, trade that guy," but Moochie just....doesn't seem to have "it." That's being nice. He can be OK, and he's trying. Maybe throwing EG in would make the Knicks bite.

 

so NY wants to upgrade the Point guard spot, and they have Crawford and NVE in mind....


WHY ON EARTH WOULD THEY THEN BE INTERESTED IN MOOCHIE!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

You forgot we are throwing EG in. Don't you know that he is a hot commodity???

 

I think they have a 2 million buyout option of Ward's contract this year.

 

Now why would we trade EG when is trade value is at an absolutely horrendous LOW? Bad business, and bad for our future. Yes, I think he needs to be encapsulated, so he doesn't pull down the team, and probably won't start for the rest of the year. But, if he get's his act together, and doesn't start, we'll be able to sign him to a cheap contract, with nothing but upside. Let him get his head on straight. Bring in John Lucas. He turned it around, so can Eddie. Then, if we want to trade him, fine.

Steve wouldn't be too happy if we traded Moochie. That's why Moochie got his fat contract in the first place. I believe JVG will turn Moochie around too, and even he will have value, just like Cato has done. I do like Ward, but I don't think he's that much better than Moochie.

So, I think this is a bad trade for us.

<b>Hang on to our trading chits, guys, and wait for just the right moment.</b> Bad time to panic sell. In another year or two, Eddie, Moochie, Mo, and Cato will all be more valuable, and we can get something better in trade. In the meantime, let's let JVG train our main guys, and teach them how to win, and play smart. As much as I loved Rudy, he was a cheerleader, not a teacher, and these guys just don't have the basketball smarts, as a result. But a couple years under JVG, and they'll all play better ball.

Look at Cato. If we'd have tried to get rid of him 2 years ago, we'd have had to pay someone to take him. Now, he's very tradeable, but as a result, we don't want to.

 

Nobody in their right mind would want either EG or Moochie. The Knicks want to upgrade the PG spot. I think if they can't get Crawford,Van Exel,or Tinsley all thes guys are better prospects than Moochie. They will probably retain Ward even if he has to come off the bench.