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Trade Bonzi, he doesn't fit here.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DaDakota, Feb 16, 2007.

  1. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I was as ecstatic as anyone when we got Bonzi Wells, but sometimes the pieces just don't fit toghether as well on the court as you would think they do looking at them on paper.

    I think Bonzi is one of those cases. He just doesn't fit.

    Sure he is a decent post player, who can take advantage of the other team's 2 guard or SF...but the problem is that we don't need another post player on this team, we already have many players with better post games than Bonzi.

    Yao, Howard, Battier, Tmac.........

    When Bonzi was in the game last night, he was so outclassed by the better athletes the Mavs have.....it was obvious that he is no longer quick enough to guard the better perimeter player and he was torched again and again by Howard.

    Yes, he got a few on Josh, but overall it was a massive mismatch in the Mavs favor.

    As I said earlier, we don't need another post player, we need perimeter players that attack the rim and force the defense to rotate.....Kirk Snyder is that player.....he matches up athletically and fits better on the team on both offense and defense.

    It would be one thing if Bonzi's post game was so good the other team's had to double team him....but it isn't...and they don't.....which IMHO makes him a poor fit.

    Time to trade Bouncy Whales and pick up a player at our most needed position....backup PG.

    Who is with me?????

    CURAHEE !!!!!!!

    DD
     
  2. KingCheetah

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    Your opinion on players changes faster than the weather in Texas.
     
  3. Cook1ez

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    Well it looks like you put some sense into this. But yea, bonzi is a good trade offer imo. I think we can get a good backup pg for sure. But thing is, i can't raelly think of any team needing a player like bonzi...and i dont want to research right away.. i just woke up..and saw the highlights from yesterdays game..kinda not the best way to start the day off.

    But yea, good work.
     
  4. Blake

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    I thought he spent most of his time guarding Stackhouse, not Howard

    Anyways, I don't think he's played enough games in a row to get into the flow. I still think he is certainly a better player than Kirk Snyder, though Snyder's hustle and athleticism is nice
     
  5. A_3PO

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    You are correct he doesn't fit here but trading him now would be a mistake. JVG is committed to making Bonzi a rotation player. The case is closed.

    On the other hand, we should NOT re-sign Fatzi-Slowzi-Lazy-Dumzi to a long term contract. I'll hold the door for him after the season is over.
     
  6. smoothie

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    i'm on the fence on this issue. he has shown that he can score and rebound. most nights he's an advantage on the block against 2' and 3's. his rebounding helps the rockets go small with rafer, tmac, bonzi and shane.

    his defense hasn't been there. his quickness and explosiveness are still coming back slowly, but he's a smart player.

    i'd like to give him another month in the rotation to see how he fits when back in shape. unfortunately the deadline is next week. snyder can do almost anything that bonzi can. he's younger and more athletic to boot. both can't make the rotation so i'd be ok trading bonzi.

    we need a PG. mostly for the playoffs, we need another guard in the rotation because luther can't play against the mavs. i'd like to see tmac, shane, and snyder as the wing rotation, with rafer and a vet PG who makes smart decisions.

    i'm hoping we can move sura at the deadline for that, but if bonzi is included, i won't be mad.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    Smoothie,

    I just think that Bonzi is a bad fit on this team. When we signed him most of us had no idea what Kirk Snyder brought to the table.

    There was a reason that JVG iced the Bonz early in the year, he knew that Snyder was more than capable.....otherwise he would have been playing Bonzi all along.

    Bonzi has lost a step, and is very lazy on defense, how many rebounds bounced just to the right or left of him and he let them go?

    Bonzi doesn't move all that well, and our biggest weakness on defense in perimeter foot speed.

    Kirk has it...Bonzi doesn't.


    And King Cheetah, I liked acquiring Bonzi, but was wary of his baggage. I think Sacremento made the right move......now the Rockets need to do the same.

    DD
     
  8. cs_eric

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    I agree!

    But the thing is that he just seemed to be not in his way of playing, not as strong as before, he went to the paint and lost the ball, less confident.

    JVG really wants to use him well, especially when big Yao is absent.
     
  9. okierock

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    Good point guards are hard to come by and we are not going to get a good point guard for Bonzi. Maybe another 3rd stringer but not a starter and I think Bonzi provides way more to this team than another 3rd string PG.
     
  10. DaDakota

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    You don't think Bonzi and or Sura could net the team a good backup PG?

    A Jason Hart, or Chucky Atkins, or Earl Watson type of player?

    DD
     
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    bonzi looks like he's about 60%. we will lose a few games waiting for this guy to get back to 100%. i thought jeff was all about playing players that will win. snyder's has shown more hustle than bonzi at any point this season. i would no longer having a problem watching him go.
     
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    Bonzi was far less effective at the beginning of the season, in a vast understatement, when he was in even worse shape, and that's when Snyder was getting his minutes. If he could help get us a point, which I think we desperately need, I would be happy to make the move. It's a shame, because I think a Bonzi Wells in shape could be an asset to the team. He can't seem to get there and we're at the break.
     
  13. KALIKULI

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    :mad: I agree with DD! Let's try to trade him for Chucky Atkins!
     
  14. DaDakota

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    He has has more than enough time to get in shape, and prove his worth.

    Perhaps he is just on that inevitable downward spiral that all athletes go through.......

    He just does not fit on this team and is not the 3rd scorer that we need, he is just a lane clogger who is slow footed on defense, his only real true asset is his rebounding....which is great around the rim, but not so great if he has to move left or right to get a rebound.

    Bonzi needs to be traded while we still can....

    DD
     
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    Funny, I thought the same thing after last night. It was painfully obvious that he does not really work with this team. That said, I would not trade him for nothing.
     
  16. windfern

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    Clearly he doesn't fit playing with Tmac on the floor. and definitely will not work with Yao.

    I believe we signed him because CD didn't think Tmac will be 100% in shape. Since we have tmac back, i think we could trade him up.
     
  17. rayrocket

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    It is easy to say "Trade Bonzi", but can we get a good player who fit?
     
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    I think he does fit. It's just that he doesn't get enough touches on the low block. We need to run plays for him when he's in deep position. But the best way to do so would be if Novak(not calling for his minutes btw) was in the rotation where he can draw a big man to the perimeter and create space.
     
  19. DaDakota

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    But why would you post up Bonzi when you can post up Yao, or J-Ho, or Battier, or Tmac?

    He is redundant? We need Snyder's athleticism more than we need another slow plodding post player.


    DD
     
  20. nyquil82

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    we could make the bench a little wider so he could fit in better.
     

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