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[Tracy McGrady] No matter how hard you try and how great you are, you need pieces to elevate you.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Progs, Apr 18, 2018.

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Agree with Tmac that he never had the pieces around him to succeed in the playoffs?

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  1. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
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    Rockets fans booed the living daylights out of him when he came back on another team

    Maybe McGrady only fans were crying
    But that means every year they cry in April cause he never loses in May

    Twenty playoff games

    That’s it

    You cried 20 times

    Harden has what? 46 with the rockets and counting
     
  2. tinman

    tinman Contributing Member
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    Yao and Tmac
    Yao got his jersey retired


    They haven’t retired Ariza’s number yet
     
  3. tinman

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    Tmac went on record saying he wished he never left Toronto

    But these fake Rockets fans believe that he’s true to the organization

    Yao never left the Rockets
    He never wished to be anything but a Rocket
     
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  4. rox4lyf

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    TMac is just bitter. Every chance he gets he takes a shot at Yao by saying he never had any help. He’s right...besides him and Yao they had no one else. But why bring it up? He’s clearly insecure about his lack of playoff success and he’s projecting.
     
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    I find it hilarious that Yao made it farther than Tracy ever did, with Ron Artest... :D
     
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    I guess Yao was chopped liver? the utah series especially the second one we had a more talented team...
     
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    Imagine if Tucker wasn't able to shoot from more than 5 feet. That was Chuck Hayes and that's who T-Mac played with. And he didn't have Chris Paul takin care of runin the point if he got tired. It was Bob Sura/Alston/Brooks. The cherry top was that his 2nd option was 7"5 soft(great skill but got bullied by smaller ones) center who overcrowed the paint and got outplayed by Memeth Okur.

    Say what you want, but it was nor T-Macs or Yao fault. They never complimented each other. Their only play was pass down low to Yao and camp on 3pointer while only 2 guys could hit it consistent.... Pick&Rolls with Yao was painful to watch.

    that team was very poorly constructed and all those supposed big transfers never really clicked (Stromile Swift/Bonnie Wells etc)
     
  8. bloodwings19

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    TMac has mental problems which is why he is not a winner. Dwight has this type of problem too, they get easily jolted by adversity. TMac would say stuff to avoid adversity. Great NBA players are many, but like most of them their don't have the mental fortitude to persevere. His head is too caved in by pressure which is why he is the reason he let his Rockets at the time fail. TMac it is on you as a piece that failed.
     
  9. daywalker02

    daywalker02 Easter Egg Hunter - Tell me why? نحن عائلة

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    I dun agree wholeheartedly but yup he had some dayum bad teams on them Magic.

    Tracy's problem was not talent, it was bad luck, bad health, couple bad decisions and a loud mouth for a player.

    That loud mouth works as an analyst.

    You could say he needed better players, but he could have gotten out of the 2nd round with his talent alone.

    With this attitude, I am sorry for his Houston fans, but if he really wanted a championship he would have joined Kobe like Metta WPeace or KG. If he was smart.

    Yao was a decent fit but not the best fit in hindsight. However, he was not responsible for his broke back and broke knee.

    He needed mobile and talented two way players around him. At least they could get him to 2nd or 3rd base.
     
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    Really makes you appreciate how good we have it with Harden.
     
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    I get that it's annoying for him to say stuff like this because it's very egotistical, but it's pretty much true. Whenever we lost with him in the playoffs, I never pointed the finger at him and said "**** this guy, we lost because he didn't play well." He always played well in the playoffs.

    I think most of hate for him here stems from the '09 season where he shut himself down for the season. But honestly, we may have been better without him that season. He was done at that point. I mean he was missing open breakaway dunks lol.
     
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    T-Whack... glad this fool never won a title. He never owns up to the facts that he never led his teams out of the 1st round of the playoffs(Still mad that he joined the Spurs that got him out of the first round). PERIOD. Great stats mean crap if you dont win...3-1 choker with the Magic. 2-0 choker against the Mavs(getting BTFO at home for a game 7). 2 first round exits against the Jazz(to Deron Williams and Carlos Boozer). Cant believe he is a HOF.

    I rip on Dwight Howard a lot...but he had playoff success. WTF did TWhack have?
     
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    Carroll Dawson was a really horrible GM, excellent Asst Coach teaching Hakeem post move and I cant believe retired his name banner CD. He listened too much and favored Jeff Van Gundy on former Knicks, Charlie Ward, Clarence Weatherspoon, Charles Oakley. Really old players at that time. Carroll really didnt know what, all around young players looked like especially the Draft only Yao didnt become bust. My Favorite Rockets GM ever Steve Patterson Drafted Robert Horry, Sam Cassell in the draft Traded for Mario Elie, Otis Thorpe, Carl Herrera and many more, Found Vernon Maxwell.
     
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    Yao sucked for the most part.

    Wasn’t after Tmac got hit with the injury bug that Yao elevated to the so called next level.

    Even Kobe was in purgatory after Shaq and before Gasol. Like a nobody.
     
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    T-Mac said a harmless thing and you guys use it to pile on him like hyenas and do everything to call him a loser.

    Y'all need Jesus in your lives.
     
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    Yao played well against Dallas in T-mac’s first season when we went up 2-0 so I’m not sure what you’re talking about.
     
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    I recall vividly when his dunks would change the momentum of games, but he did dunk more as a Rap and Magic.



    Much like Carl Landry's.

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    Against young Dwight.

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  18. tinman

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    Yes Tmac has great dunks
    That doesn’t mean you win a playoff series

    Plus Steve Francis played in the dunk contest and only lost to Vince Carter
     
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    As much as players like LeBron carry a team through tough times (was it the first 14 points or something last night?) you do really need pieces around you to go deep into the playoffs.
     
  20. tinman

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    The same pieces Tmac had won nba titles when played with lebron

    Like Shane battier
     
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