[Toronto Star]- Rockets talking about Donyell Marshall?

I wouldn't either Nikestrad. At least, I wouldnt give up an unprotected 1st rounder.

In the end, you are going to have to either a) Take Jalen Rose off their hands or b) Give them a 1st rounder.

IMO, there is no way a Donyell Marshall deal happens unless we are able to jetison Mo or Spoon. I can't see 5 PFs on the bench for us.

 

I'd do Jalen for Mo and Donyell for the TE with them getting our # 1.

Super deal. We exchange a zero for an ok malcontent and get a starter.

We can't draft that well.

 

Per ESPN "rehash" Insider:

Jan. 14 - Marshall, whose contract expires after this season, is becoming a hot property on the trade-rumor circuit. He has been discussed as part of a deal that would send Jalen Rose to Miami for a package built around Eddie Jones, and this week his name has come up in connection with the Timberwolves and Rockets.

A report on TNT suggests Marshall could wind up in Minnesota, with Miami's Jones, as part of a four-team trade that also would send Jalen Rose to the Knicks, Penny Hardaway to the Raptors and Latrell Sprewell to the Heat.

However, a source told the Toronto Star it was preposterous the Raptors would deal both Marshall and Rose and get only Hardaway in return. On the other hand, trading the expiring contracts of Marshall and Hardaway for each other in a deal that also rids the Raptors of the two years left on Rose's deal might not be a bad thing.

The Toronto Star also indicates the Rockets have inquired about Marshall's availability.

 

I think Marshall's worth a 1st, even unprotected, if he would agree to a sensible extension. Sure, the guy's a bit old. But he's a great player. And can certainly provide us the kind of boost Cassell gave the Wolves last year. Definitely a major upgrade at the 4.

 

Marshall rebounds and hits the three. I think he's a tougher defender than J Howard too. but I like juwan howard.

 

• I would not trade our 1st rounder for Marshall
• I do feel like Marshall would be an upgrade at the PF spot. But I dont think it would be a "significant" one. Just an upgrade. How much more would he do versus what Juwan is currently doing now?
•_If we were to acquire Marshall, we have to be moving one of our PFs, either Taylor, Spoon or both. We cant just keep adding salary to the PF position.
• If we didnt have to give up much to get him, a Howard, Marshall PF rotation would look pretty nice.

 

rebounds well, blocks shots pretty well and has a nice 3 point shot. he looked like he might've become a star coming out of uconn but he never reached that level. he is a good player though and would fit well on a team where he is not the first or second option.

 

Fully agree, but I think that the Raptors would definitely do it for the TE, I think they are one of the few teams in the league in full dump mode, I think they are attempting to start over again from scratch.

Although, I would much rather have Jalen Rose than Donyell Marshall, although either or both would be a great addition to this team that would not only give us depth, but I think would make us an instant contender in the West.

Just my humble opinion, but of course I am right

--Tiger

 

I guess that wouldn't be too bad a deal. I'm not sure how Rose would fit with this team though. But, that's just me. I was kind of hoping they could go after Alston as well. Maybe a MoT/Bowen/TE/1st for Alston/Marshall/A. Williams (PF).

 

I don't see Marshall as a significant upgrade over Howard. They're both similar players. Soft, undersized, good stats on bad teams their entire careers.

 

I would like to go for any trade packages for Chandler/Frank Williams or Humphries/Arroyo..

 

Marshall can shoot threes - Howard can't.
Marshall can average up to 10 rebounds - Howard can't.
Marshall can block more than 1.5 shots a game - Howard can't.


In 2003-04 he was the only player in the NBA to rank in the Top 25 in rebounds (9.9 rpg), blocks (1.51 bpg) and three-point field goal percentage (.403)

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/donyell_marshall/

 

Agreed and he is also more athletic than Howard as well.

 

And last summer everybody was all excited over Juwan Howard because he was supposedly going to be such a HUGE upgrade over Taylor. He could defend better than Taylor, rebound better than Taylor, was a much smarter player than Taylor, and has been a consistent 18/7 player for most of his career. Look how that turned out.

I'm not saying Marshall is not a better player, but if you're expecting a huge upgrade, I'm afraid you're going to end up being disappointed by him just like Howard has disappointed everybody.

 

I would be willing to give up a 1st rounder IF

- it was top 20 protected
- Marshall would be willing to sign an extension around MLE money and not too long of a contract(most likely not happening and not something you can count on **Boozer**)

I'm not overly excited about our draft prospects, and I value the MLE more than our 1st rounder since it's more likely to bring in an impact player. Unlike some in this thread, I view Donyell as more of a sf/pf than a strict pf, so him getting minutes shouldn't be a problem. He's a great rebounder, and a good weakside shotblocker who brings a decent jumper. A better, older version of EG.

That puts MoT on the outside looking in, but whatever, he hasn't been helping the team that much this season. Then we fill in a pg, wing player, or backup center with the full MLE this offseason and we have a stronger rotation.

 

I didn't see many people touting Juwan as a huge upgrade over MoT, and most considered Juwan to be an upgrade over MoT in rebounding and d because MoT is so bad at those areas as opposed to Juwan being so great at those areas.

With the assets we currently have for obtaining players via trade/draft/fagency, we can't really expect a "huge" upgrade anywhere. Solid rotation role players is what we're looking for, hopefully with some youth added in somewhere.

 

I look at Marshall as a player that can come in and play SF for this team and can move over to PF when needed or when matchups warrant it. I don't see Chandler, Swift or any other PF we all like coming here this season. Since we probably are not going to get a rebounding monster at the 4, then I think we need a long SF that can rebound well from that position. Marshall is this type of player and can give you 3pt shooting as well. And, again, he can move over and play PF when needed. I think he is a real good alternative to the PFs we would love to have and would ive us nice depth and versatility on our roster.

 

I have said and will continue to say that Juwan Howard is a big upgrade over Mo. Its ludicrous for people to say that Juwan is a "disappointment" because he hasn't came in and kicked butt in only the first 36 games of the season. I can't say this enough, it takes a while for a team to develop chemistry - oftimes more than two seasons. Look at the Wizards. Juwan Howard will be producing more when his minutes are increased. They have to play Mo too though because he makes 8 million a year. I can guarantee you if Juwan was playing his 40 a night, his stats would be right at his career averages if not higher. That being said, I do believe that Donyell Marshall is an upgrade over Juwan. He's a great defender that can run and block shots, great with helpside defense, and he can spread the defense with his outside shooting. Juwan is a great midrange shooter with ok defense.