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To thin to play center?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by JuanValdez, Aug 27, 2002.

  1. JuanValdez

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    I was wondering what people thought about the validity of the following very rough calculation in evaluating centers for bulk: a simple weight/height ratio. Obviously, it is inadequate on its own and can only be understood along with height and body fat, etc. But, as a quick indicator and with a general understanding of the players' build otherwise, would it be misleading to look at this ratio to measure a player's bulk inside?

    Using ESPN height and weight figures, a couple of centers look like this:

    Name..............Height..........Weight..........Ratio
    K. Clark.............83.................220.............2.65
    K. Willis.............84.................245.............2.92
    B. Wallace.........81.................240.............2.96
    S. Bradley..........90.................275.............3.06
    K. Cato..............83.................255............3.07
    Mutombo...........86.................265.............3.08
    T. Duncan..........84.................260.............3.10
    K. Malone...........81.................256............3.16
    Yao Ming............90.................296............3.29
    E. Campbell.......84..................279............3.32
    S. O'Neal............85.................335............3.94

    I was surprised to see Kevin Willis so low on the mass scale, given his strength. I was also suprised to see Yao Ming soundly beat guys who are never criticized for being too thin or weak, like Tim Duncan, Karl Malone, Mutombo, and Ben Wallace. And finally, I was surprised by just how much Shaquille O'Neal beats everyone in a height/weight ratio. He is a big, big boy.
     
  2. RocketsPimp

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    Ming is not 296 lbs. He is between 250-260.
     
  3. Gutter Snipe

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    Get with the program. Even PJ Carlissimo (sic), the coach who ran the Ming practice in New York said the number was wrong and that Ming is actually 296.
     
  4. JuanValdez

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    Some early reports had him listed at 240, but I thought it was pretty commonly accepted at this point that the legit measurement was near the 300 pound mark. Besides that, given that he and Bradley are the same height but Yao's legs are 3 times the size of Bradley's, I just can't believe that Yao is actually lighter.
     
  5. Easy

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    Muscle tone (I'm no expert here) might have something to do with the "light but strong" phenomenon. Technique also plays a big part on whether you are a pusher or or a pushee on the block.
     
  6. R0ckets03

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    I dont think Shaq is anywhere close to 335.
     
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    Weight doesn't neccessarily mean strength.
     
  8. Der Rabbi

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    Kevin Willis is heavier than that. Sometimes those measurements are taken their rookie years & never get changed.
     
  9. RC Cola

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    Oh, so that's why Shaq is at 335. Makes a lot of since now. :D
     
  10. RocksMillenium

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    I have a hard time believing he is lighter then Shawn Bradley. And I would be shocked if Ming's representatives got away with fooling NBA scouts by exaggerating his weight by 40 or 50 pounds.

    <b>I dont think Shaq is anywhere close to 335.</b>

    It wouldn't surprise me if he was that weight or slightly heavier. I remember last year when Shaq promised to lose some weight and get around 300 or 290 and his toe injury prevented it. Shaq's well over 300 pounds no question.
     
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  11. rimbaud

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    296 comes from the official weigh in at the Chicago shoot around. So it would have to be that NBA scouts and coaches were lying about what the scale read.
     
  12. RocksMillenium

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    LOL, this makes this rumor of Ming weighing about 250 pounds even crazier!
     
  13. aznlincolnpark

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    I remember from reading an article online saying yao ming weighs around 250-260..Maybe, the article was wrong or they put the weight's number incorrectly.
     

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