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TMac - SG or SF

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by room4rentsf, Mar 1, 2006.

  1. room4rentsf

    room4rentsf Member

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    Just curious where people feel TMac is more effective at SG or SF? I wonder if guarding stronger players night in night out is taking its toll on TMac's health?

    The thoughts.

    Small Forward- When guarding the opposing teams SF Tmac has an easier time keeping up because they are usually not as quick. However, SF's in the league tend to be more physical and sometimes play in/out of the post. Most of the SF's I can think of appear to be stronger that TMac meaning he needs to be more physical with them especially defending in the post.
    Example - RJefferson, RLewis, LJames, SMarion

    Shooting Guard- Tmac probably expends alot of energy running around chasing the SG's but I think there is less of a physical beating and wear/tear on his body. Maybe more fatigue but less physical contact.
    Example - Kobe, PPierce, MRedd, RAllen

    I wonder if its still effective to have TMac guard other SF's or move him back to SG where he can utilize his height advantage better.

    That would mean looking to bring in a good sized SF any thoughts?
    *edit I realize TMac has been struggling with his back/joints but I wonder if having to guard bigger players is taking too much of a toll.

    J
     
  2. rice

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    so are you saying T-Mac is a tweener!? :eek: :rolleyes: :eek:
     
  3. room4rentsf

    room4rentsf Member

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    Wow that is the most well thought out articulate response I have seen all day. I can tell you really put some thought into your responses.. Im serious! No way do I think you post garbage just to bump your post count!

    :rolleyes: made me waste 10 seconds of my life responding to that crap.

    J
     
  4. krosfyah

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    TMac played SG last season when we had Jimmy Jackson. JJ was too slow to play SG so he played SF. Once we traded JJ away and TMac played SF is when the Rox went on that huge winning streak.

    TMac is a SF ...not a SG.

    He can play some SG depending on matchups but that isn't his natural postion.
     
  5. room4rentsf

    room4rentsf Member

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    Do you think we went on that winning streak because TMac played SF? or could it be we brought in some good players that helped lift this ball club.

    Im still unsure if TMac is a natural G or F has he stated which he prefers? I thought last season he mentioned somewhere he preffered playing guard? If I find the link I'll post it.

    J
     
  6. blazer_ben

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    Well he is you're typical swingman. can play both spots with greeat effect. it really depends which spot he feels more at home with. i like to see him play more SG to exploite his size. there arent many SG besides kobe that have his length. and even kobe is shorter
     
  7. Aceshigh7

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    I think T-Mac is more effective at SG. He was listed as a SG when he came to Houston and that's what he played here for about half of last season before being moved to SF.

    I think he presents greater matchup problems for other teams when he's playing SG.

    Defense isn't a problem. T-Mac can easily guard just about any position without it affecting his offensive game.
     
  8. LegendZ3

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    T-Mac doesn't really use his size that much on the offensive end. Pretty much everytime he's on the post will lead to a fade away jumper. That makes him easy to defend when he's playing 2. But he uses his quickness all the time, and most of SF in the league can't stop him off the dribble. So he's really better at playing 3.
     
  9. krosfyah

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    ta the start of the season, TMac started at SG and he wasn't effective. Don't you remember? We started 6 and 11.

    After they traded JJ, TMac moved over to SF and he was back to his usual self. It was night and day.

    I'm just giving you the results. Dismiss it if you want.
     
  10. jopatmc

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    All I know is this, when TMac switched off and finally started guarding Kobe the last time we played them, he made Kobe a very inefficient shooting guard.
     
  11. DeAleck

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    I love Tmac, and now, Tmac is neither a SG nor a SF. He is a PD --- painful disappointment.
     
  12. jevjnd

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    You know, I really feel that he's more of a shooting guard, and I have to agree that he does seem to be wearing down more at the small forward position. The years when he won scoring titles he was a shooting guard, and while it doesn't seem that he's really shutting down small forwards, it does seem that he was always able to give shooting guards much greater problems, even on defense. He used to routinely demolish Kobe Bryant on both ends of the floor, but at least this year with his battered body, he was lit up by Kobe.
     
  13. akuma

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    what T-Mac is depends on where the Rockets are weaker. the only other SF is freaking Bowen, so that's all there is to it. i guess Hayes counts as well, but as far as Van Dumby is concerned, he might as well not even be on the team.

    on a side note, is AI better as a 1 or 2? is KG better as a 3 or 4? Duncan as a 4 or 5? Marion as a 3 or 4? Lebron as a 1, 2, or 3?! Nowitzki as a 3, 4, or 5? at least 7 of the top 10 players in the NBA are almost equally as effective at multiple positions.
     
  14. Toast

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    I think his body is definitely made to be more of a SF type than a SG. But you're right. He could stand to bulk up just a little bit.
     
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    I think he did in the off-season.
     
  16. jopatmc

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    No, he don't need to bulk up. He needs to take pounds off his frame so his back won't tweak so much. He needs about 10 less pounds to make him quicker and increase his stamina.
     
  17. tchou

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    The SG position requires a more rounded player.

    I think TMac's body and style is built to be a SG. His skills match up better to that of a SG. However, TMac is a very talented player and can play both positions effectively.


    The SF position is one of the most score-heavy positions.

    So given the current current roster, and JVG's style of coaching, The rockets are more effective if TMac was a SF and DW as SG than TMac as SG and Ryan Bowen as SF.
     
  18. tycoonchip

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    He is both. I don't think it really matters much whether he plays small forward or small guard. It really just depends on the situation of the team. If we were able to obtain a player such as Ron Artest I am sure Tmac would go back to being listed as a SG since Artest plays the SF position. Artest would still probably get the tougher defensive assignments though. We traded JJ to get Wesley and I believe it was because JVG figured the guy had more juice in him than Jim Jax. Wesley isn't going to guard the three's and Bobby Sura last year wasn't going to guard the three's so Tmac was slid up to the SF position.
     
  19. pasox2

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    Tmac can't rebound worth a crap. His game is nowhere near the basket. He is a shooting guard. We only have him at 3 because we have no other option for forward but crap like Bowen and we're stuck with that midget Wesley in the backcourt that we're forced to give time when he has no ball handling skills whatsoever.

    Tmac is a 2 on any team with half-decent post men at the 3.
     
  20. Doctor Robert

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    I think we need shooters, and the most likely position in the starting lineup to provide that is wingman.

    I think we should get the best shooter we can and Tmac should play the other position. That probably means he'll stay a SF because a SF shooter will be harder to find than a SG. But anything could happen.
     

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