Okay, so now even when we win people are still ripping on TMac. Now, I am not a TOF at all and agree with a lot of the will to win questions surrounding him, but people here do not give him enough credit for how well he plays. I DVR'ed the game and watched every play he was involved in and wrote down what happened. Here are the results, and they really go against what most of you criticize him for. Good plays: made field goals, assists, blown assists (missed open shot), hocky assists (double teamed, pass, pass to open shooter for field goal), misses when fouled Bad plays: long and covered jumpshots, turnovers, bad shots Neutral: missed field goals that were open and good looks (they are good shots) In the game, TMac made 29 good plays, 7 bad plays and 8 neutral plays A few more facts from the game: -Tmac would have had 8 more assists if the recipients had made their open shot -He drove to the hoop a total of 15 times while only taking 4 long, covered jumpers - He had 5 hockey assists where he drew the double team, kicked it to another player and they swung it to the open man for a bucket -Both of Landry’s open under the basket shots were due to Tmac’s double teams and passing Defensively, since there is a thread dedicated to his “poor defensive play” tonight, I watched every play as well. He had 4 bad defensive plays where he did something wrong or lazy. -1 bad foul -Didn’t switch at all on a Foster bucket -Didn’t move around a screen fast enough (though pretty borderline) -Outrun on a fast break by Dunleavy He didn’t blow any other defensive assignments, fought though many screens and gave a great effort outside of those 4 plays. I literally watched every play when he was on the court, paused it, and wrote down the results. I will put them in the next post. Basically, when he is out there he is setting up teammates and making plays and tonight he really limited his bad long jumpers and focused on being aggressive and making plays. He gave effort on both ends of the court and had minimal mistakes
PLAY BY PLAY BREAKDOWN WHEN TMAC WAS INVOLVED IN THE PLAY: -Drive to hoop, kicked out to SB, swung it to wide open Rafer, missed 3 (1 good) -Drive to hoop, beat Granger, G fouled TMac on way to wide open hoop, non-shooting foul (2 good) -Drive to hoop w/ Scola following, passed back to Scola, missed 2 foot shot (3 good) -Hit 3 pointer (4 good) -Drive to hoop, foul (made both) (5 good) -Ran the fast BREAK, passed to Rafer, who missed layup (6 good) -Took long 3 pointer (1 Bad) -Long jumpshot (2 Bad) -Bullet pass to Hayes, layup (7 good) -Drove to hoop, kicked it to Battier, 3 point good (8 good) -No look pass to wide open Battier on 3 line, missed (9 good) -Drive to hoop, miss tough shot, Yao dunk (10 good)*Changed to Neutral -Drove around screen, drove to the hoop, made 5 foot shot (11 good) -Drove in, stopped, passed back to AB at top of key, swung it into Yao, miss (12 good) -Pass from 3 pt line to Landry, good (13 good) -18 foot jumpshot, missed (3 Bad) -Great p-n-r pass to Yao, Yao fouled and misses shot (14 good) -Drove to hoop, missed difficult layup (neutral) -Recipient of alley-oop, Rafer threw it too high (neutral) -Technical (4 Bad) -Came off of pick, open jumpshot miss (neutral) -Swung ball to wide open Rafer at top of key, Rafer drove and missed shot (15 good) -Drove, PNR with Scola, assist and foul (16 good) -Drove to hoop, pass to open Battier for 3, miss (17 good) -Poked in eye by Foster, no call, turnover (neutral) -Assist to Rafer 3 pointer (18 good) -Entry pass to an open Scola, missed 18 foot jumper (19 good) -Assist to Scola on drive to hoop (20 good) -Missed shot in traffic 4 feet out, possible foul (5 bad) -3 pointer (20 good) -Missed open 3 pointer (neutral) -Pass to open Novak off of double team, missed 3 (21 good) -3 pointer (22 good) -Double teamed, pass to Novak, passed to open Rafer, missed 3 (23 good) -Made jumpshot (24 good) -20 foot miss (6 bad) -Drove to hoop, fouled (made 2 ft’s) (25 good) -Open jumpshot, miss (neutral) -Assist to Alston off of double team (26 good) -Travel (7 bad) -Double teamed pass to Alston pass to Landry for layup and foul (27 good) -Double teamed pass to Alson pass to Landry layup (28 good) -Open 3 pt miss (neutral) -Triple teamed pass to Yao for dunk-assist (29 good) -Pass to Rafer under the basket, Rafer mishandled (30 good)
Great work. Would it be possible for you do the same thing for the Utah game? My impression of that game was that T-Mac played like crap (especially in the first half) when he should've put us on his back, but I want to know if maybe I let frustration with such a critical loss get the better of me.
Assists are a bad thing for Tmac apparently according to posters in the game thread. Even though assists leads to easy baskets and gets your teammates involved.
I would (my wife has a conference all weekend and I am bored), but I don't have the game DVR'ed (I don't think)
The flaw I see with this breakdown is that if he takes an ill-advised shot (i.e. 20 ft fadeaway) and makes it, its considered a good play. IMO, if that happens, it should still be either bad play or a neutral play. Also, i'm not sure how objective you are when it comes to his passing. for instance, the last item on your list (the pass to alston) was, in my opinion, a terrible pass. it wasnt under the basket...tmac led alston so much that alston would've been outside of the paint if he caught it. also, at that spot, coupled with the fact that alston would've had his back to the basket, there was nothing rafer could've done except set up the offense again. IMO, this was a bad play on tmac's part b/c rafer WAS open during the cut, but tmac threw the pass too late and too far ahead.
I consider it a good play if it goes in and gets us points. Just like I say it's a bad play if it misses. I agree the one pass you are talking about is borderline and I only rewatched it once, so if you want, chalk that as a bad play. All of the others were good passes...watch the game again and see for yourself. I was being objective...I really wanted to know if he really does just hang out and take jumpshots or if he spent a lot of time making plays. This game, at least, it is the latter
I thought TMac put the pass in the only spot he could because of the defender's positioning running back to Rafer and thus Rafer fumbled it away.
man finally a non tmac hating thread can't any1 cut him some slack he's just human P.S good analysis of tmac keep up the good work
I wonder how McGrady would feel if he ever reads this thread. He'd feel paranoid seeing how we're kinda stalking him...
doesnt matter, t-mac is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't. people will always find SOMETHING to hate on t-mac for.
statistically tmac did not play well. although you said tmac didn't do that bad defensively, i felt his intensity could have been better (but he was limited by the knee obviously). offensively though, i thought he played great. the alley-oop and several layups were missed b/c he got fouled. more importantly, clearly he didn't have the hops just yet. it'll get there after the ASB. a lot of his shots were good shots; he just didn't make them. tmac can play better; he will play better. i still have faith in the guy. he's going through a lot and i can see he's frustrated at times on the court tonight (he looked down on the court in anger a lot) b/c he couldn't do some of the things he usually can do. but as tmac gets healthy and we keep winning, that's all i can ask for. when we get the tmac of the beginning of the year with this team, we'll be one heck of a team.
I dont have dvr, but FSN is showing the game again. I'll comment on the items on your list that i see for as long as i watch.
so, while your wife is at her "conference," you get bored? Is your wife that entertaining? j/k bet you don't have kids if you did all that analysis btw, good thread/work.
Everyone will fumble a pass if its a bullet pass and led too far in front of you. If you recall, Rafer didnt even try to catch it. He tried to bat it down to keep it inbounds. But its just one play...insignificant in the long run.
Good thread. But I wish McGrady had been more aggressive in the second half. He was making some threes, but it seemed like he got diverted away from drives way too easily, and I remember him making a lot of those drives earlier in this season. So hopefully the problem is just that he hasn't fully regained his conditioning yet.
she's in town, but has to be up at 6 AM for the conference, so we didn't go out (no kids), so I decided to do this. It wasn't fun and I doubt I'll ever do it again
