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Time's cover story this week

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  1. mc mark

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    Why Barack Obama Could Be The Next President

    By: Joe Klein

    The Fresh Face First-term Senator Barack Obama has the charisma and the ambition to run for President. But, as Joe Klein reports from the campaign trail, he's not quite ready to answer the tough questions.

    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1546362,00.html
     
  2. oomp

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    George Will on ABC yesterday morning said watching Obama speak last week, felt like it must have for scouts watching a 16 year old A-Rod play ball.
     
  3. FranchiseBlade

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    He should run in 2008. Part of the interest in him is that he is new. Once people have seen it and been exposed or overexposed it will hurt his chances.

    He has the charisma and presents the vision of leadership that people will get behind. That will overcome the few who wouldn't vote for him because of his race, and those who think he is too inexperienced.
     
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    I'd rather have Barack as the Dem nominee than Hillary. At least Barack would have a chance to win.
     
  5. insane man

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    state senate for 8 years. us senate for 2? i think these would be legitimate concerns.
     
  6. Lil Pun

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    I just don't think the U.S. would vote ANY minority into presidential office. Sad...
     
  7. FranchiseBlade

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    More qualified than our current President. I think his two elections have shown that winning the office is more about having a conrete message and vision that can be expressed easily.
     
  8. GladiatoRowdy

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    Our current president had less experience.
     
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    In my opinion, he's better qualified than George W. Bush was when he ran for the office he "won." I have no problems with his qualifications at all. I wish he'd put on about 10 pounds, lol, but other than that, he's good to go. The man is brilliant, and can give a freakin' speech. How many possible Democratic candidates for '08 can give a damn speech on the stump, and have charisma? Pretty short list. There may be one name on it, and it starts with an O.



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  10. GladiatoRowdy

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    Oprah?

    ;)
     
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    Nooooooooooo!!!!!




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    I have concerns about his lack of experience but agree if GWB is qualified, Obama is definitely qualified.
     
  13. insane man

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    i dont think bush was qualified. however i think obama is less qualified.

    and i agree winning the election is irrelevant to the qualification. but if he were to ask me if i thought he was ready...i'd say he doens't have enough experience. and i love the man and can't wait for the day that he's president. though i have disagreements with his oh so careful and centrist policies.
     
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    I love this guy, atleast in the terms of least of all evils love. Firstly, damn he's well spoken. Almost Clintonesque in this respect, and Clinton is in the pantheons of orations in my eyes. secondly, he's the closest thing to nonpartisan as is out there... Trying to please all the people all of the time, while still maintaining some set of values that he sticks to... It's a good thing. Sure, he knows politispeak, but when pushed, he doesn't contradict himself often, and doesn't flat out pander, as Kerry was guilty of on occasion. And I think he's almost as concerned with image as Clinton which is good. He'll go very middle of the road/white to for a vp, so as to appease the middle/right. I think that dems will believe he's ultimately on their side, and enough on the right will see him as moderate enough not to empower any of the far left kooks. If there's a downfall, it will be the "on the other hand" rhetoric which eventually he'll have to be accounted for. So who's the republican frontrunners for 2008?
     
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    What in the world is that supposed to mean?

    As far as Obama, I would not mind having him as the Democratic candidate for President for many reasons.

    1 - No chance of Ms. Clinton winning.
    2 - It will force the Republicans to nominate someone worthwhile (as opposed to feeling they can nominate anyone if Clinton gets the nom)
    3 - If elected I don't feel he'd be near as bad as a lot of the potential democratic candidates.

    He is fairly inexperienced but that doesn't necessarily mean he's not qualified. I'm not saying he is but rather saying that inexperience does not necessarily entail ineptitude.
     
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    did you purposely ignore the next two sentences?
     
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    I think this is more about being well spoken in a super educated, politically savvy, potential leader of the free world kind of way, unlike our current leader.
     
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    i think you are just trying to cause trouble here, everyone that read his post should know exactly what he meant.
     
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    Kind of a back-handed compliment of Obama, halfbreed, but I'll take it. ;)

    What you were wondering about, and what SWT was referring to, was his ability to give a speech, articulate the issues... that he's well spoken. Certainly, he is head and shoulders above the President in that regard, not that saying that is a big compliment. It takes someone like John Kerry to make Bush appear even remotely articulate, IMO.

    I just don't buy the "experience," issue regarding Senator Obama. He's 44 years old, and would be closer to 50 than 40 by the time he took office. He has a brilliant academic record. Some will say his race is a barrier to running for President, as opposed to VP. I simply don't buy that. I think it's past time, way past time for America to look beyond race or gender when it comes to our highest office. In my opinion, he would make a superb President, and a huge upgrade over the current one.

    Unlike George W. Bush, Barak Obama would truly be a uniter, not a divider. And compassion, to Senator Obama, is not a word for a campaign slogan proved meaningless upon election. He is a compassionate man, and enormously intelligent. It's time for a new direction... not only for the country, but for the Democratic Party. As a Democrat, I would gladly go where Obama would lead us. I hope he runs and gives us a chance to take that new direction, and to regain what makes America special in the eyes of the world, and in the eyes of Americans.



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    Here's the ranking of how I'd vote....

    1. Obama
    2. Guiliani
    3. McCain

    Now, I hope one of those three gets through - geez, I don't know if I should register as a democrat or a republican to vote in which primary.
     

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