Interesting stats between J-Ho and Stro-show, and both are shooting fairly well, and Stro is shooting 48.7%. J- ho MPG 31.7 FG% 46.2 RB 6.6 ppg 11.2 Stro-show MPG 21.7 FG% 48.7 RB 4.8 PPG 9.2 Clutchfans links to stats So Stro plays 50% less minutes, if you take his averages and up them by 50% they look like this: MPG 32 RB 7.4 PPG 13.8 Better than J-ho....I think Swift needs more minutes, I would like to see him getting the 32 mpg and J-ho getting 20....let's see what he can do. He was slow in picking up the offense but I am loving the way he is driving the lane from the top of the key and he is an excellent interior passer. DD
I think its time to take Stro start earning that contract. If he is going to become our PF of the future I would like him to learn by fire. I hate when JVG pulls players when they make mistakes. In a season like this where we might not even make the playoffs is when we play Stro get him comfortable with the other starters and groom him to become our PF of the future. J
Why not? At this point what do we have to loose? Juwan is usually good for 6-10 a game where as Stro is 18 one, 0 another. I would personally rather have that steady scorer coming off the bench. Plus, I think at this point in J-Ho's career, he would benefit the most playing against the second string anyhow.
i didnt realize there stats were like that. its pretty interesting, i think if we lose a few more games soon. that you would have to check out swift in the lineup. you have to see what he is going to give you from that spot for the future.
By the way that is 20ppg and 11rbs per game from our PF position, and that is not counting Baxter or Hayes. I think that our PFs have been playing ok. If someone would say Stro would give us 14 - 7 a night we would say he was worth the mid level exception, well if he got 30 minutes that is what he would be averaging, just put him in there. DD
Good point. Shows once again that our biggest offensive liability is in the backcourt - i.e. lack of a reliable shooting guard/forward who can hit the open 3. This is really the most pressing issue ... if it is addressed, I wouldn't be surprised to see Stro and Juwan's #s go up because we will be able to spread the defense ... look for more dunks and more effective post play for Stromile. Man I wish Stro had Juwan's 18 foot jumpshot. Talk about spreading defenses thin.
He has a decent one, but I would rather him take it aggressive to the rack, he can change the energy of a game in an instant. Also, I would not mind seeing Hayes at the 3 a bit to spell Tmac....and I think Hayes and Stro would be interesting on the court together, Hayes is a great cutter, and Stro has very good passing skills for a big man. DD
Yeah I know ... but it's not nearly as consistent, and he doesn't use it often at all so I doubt he has a lot of faith in it. Usually you'll only see him shooting it if the clock has run out and/or there is no other option. He does have great post moves ... wish he would finish more often, but definitely much better in the low post than Juwan Howard.
I am mad at Stro but I still think we shoudl let him start and try to earn his keep. Playing him 4 games in a row at 38-40 minutes then pass judgement.
One of my points exactly. He can't hang onto a pass and seems to never be expecting one in the paint. A few other things : 1) Stro's FG% is so good because I'm willing to bet a lot of his shots aren't from 15 feet like JHo's are. 2) Stro's FG% is higher because he played a lot of C while Yao was out and got inside a lot. See 1) above. With Yao back, he'll be back to playing PF and a 7'6" obstacle roaming the paint may hinder him. Stro needs to be able to pop the 15 foot jumper that is almost always available for JHo now that Yao is back. Can he do it consistently? 3) Don't forget to up his personal fouls by 50% which would mean he'd get about 5 a game and foul out every game if he got true starter minutes. 4) Don't forget to up his turnovers per game by 50% which would mean he'd average about 3 a game. 5) He's also been a defensive liability on several plays I've seen. 6) Don't forget to up JVG's blood pressure by 50% everytime he sees Stro make a boneheaded play.
Just what I was going to say. The high FG% comes mostly from point blank dunks and layups inside. He makes the 15-18 foot jumper like 20% of the time. But he's definitely more talented than Juwan Howard, far more athletic - he just needs to learn how to catch a pass and HOLD it. Get a velcro transplant for his palms or something. I'm not that worried about his PFs though. I think he has the ability to keep his fouls down if he needs to - most of his fouls seem to be intentional rather than unintentional. More often than not you'll see him go for a long stretch without foul trouble, and then he'll pick up like 3 within a short period when his time on the court is almost up.
THat would be quite interesting; Stro doesn't seem to get after the offensive boards where Chuck does...a nice 3/4 swing tandem...
How can you say 9ppg, 5rpg career player is DEFINITELY more talented than 17ppg, 7rpg player. At least try to avoid words like definitely, far more, etc
thats a career average when he's on losing teams.. wait we are a losing team but on Juwan's defense, he is a smarter player than Stromile. Stromile needs to be a defensive force for me to give him the nod over Juwan.
Juwan is far from a 17-7 player now, he is a decent player and makes an excellent 6th man off the bench, let's put him there. DD
This start Stro stuff is off the charts of sensibility. To throw 30+ mins/game on him now would be an incredible mistake. He clearly isn't ready for the pressure of being relied upon game after game. He's barely ready for the pressure of being the first option off the bench. When he plays 5 good games at 20 mins/game then maybe his minutes should inch up some if he continues playing well. Stro is Fool's Gold, pure and simple, and many here still hope against all hope he's the real thing. Amazing. Right now, he doesn't have the mentality to be a 30+ min player. I think even he realizes that now after being such a bust this season. He is what he is after 5 1/2 NBA seasons and no coach or system is going to change him.
