I have seen quite a few games now and I hope people dont keep referring to Stats. I think Bogans will be our version of Bruce Bowen- agreed he has not yet proven anything on offense, but this kid can defend. It is especially relevant tonight when we play Minny. Let us NOT wait till Ricky Davis and Mcants get going before we put Bogans in. IF there is one player among the young group that has earned the right to play next year ( or years) it will be Keith Bogans ( and my favorite Chuck Hayes) Our offense depends on Mcgrady and Yao and hopefully Stro. I am not saying Dwes is not a good defender or can't contribute- but Bogans is a better choice for defense.
Yes, I'm a fan of Bogans....just look at my sig. What I really like about him is his big body. Teams can't ISO against him like they do against Wes to take advantage of his small height. (they normally score too). I also really like how he runs down the court, he really hustles from one end to the other and gets a fast break layup quite often. He's had some good hard fouls, and good defenseive plays. He was a great pickup IMO, during the season. Kind of like last season when we got our x-factors. (I'm not saying he is one). that being said, if I made any sense at all....I don't see him taking Wes's starting role anytime soon unless Wes really begins to stink it up or is injured.
I dont think he will ever start. IMO, you cant bring 6'1 DWes of the bench. If Bogans starts and gets lit up....what are going to do? Bring in the SMALLER Dwes? NO! If Wes gets lit up, then you have somewhat of a chance of Bogans shutting them down with his size.
If Bogan gets lit up then what can we don't ahve a prayer with D Wes!This is really a false choice! Sure this will be a lot easier if Bogans scores, but this season anything consistent from a player is more than we can ask for THe guy is already playing around 25 minutes- he can easily handle 30 . I am just suggesting this for what happened last time- I can understand Ricky Davis trying to make a statement after the trade- but to let Rashad McCants to do the same thing is just plain ridiculous- this is not about coaching, It is just failing to adapt.
Maybe if DWES does not spend all the energy on defense he may get his shooting touch back. Off Late he has not done much on the offense.
Not gonna happen this season. If you start Bogans, that completely screws up the rotation that currently allows TMac to sit down right after the 1st quarter. Keeping McGrady fresh is the MOST IMPORTANT OBJECTIVE. Other than Bogans, we have nobody capable of legitimately playing small foward. Besides, as others have said, Bogans 3-pt shot is too inconsistent. We need shooters around Yao and TMac. When you sit Yao and/or TMac, that is a perfect time to bring in Bogans because he can do so many other things other than hitting 3's.
I do agree with you about this NOT happening, To your point on " We need Shooters around T- Mac and YAO"- Dwes has not exactly been the offensive weapon we can count on either! Rafer just disappears at times. Luther is Luther. Who else do we have? Lampe perhaps!!!!!!1
DWes is now shooting over 40% for the year. Considering he started the season at like <25%, that is a big feat. I saw that he was shooting nearly 60% the past couple months. Granted, the last week or so he has trailed off. But Wesley has been shooting well as of late. DWes on his worst day is about = to Bogans (esp if you take Bogan's layups out of the equation).
No. But we do need to start limiting Wesley's minutes. He's injured and old. Bogans is young and healthy. For two straight seasons we've been overplaying david wesley. The spurs realized that Robert Horry was being overplayed at his age by the lakers and kept his minutes down. We need to start doing the same thing.
well he is the best SG we have right now, and he is the best shooter on a team that can't shoot. we need him playing a lot if we are going to make the playoffs. worry about his legs in the playoffs when we get there.
I think these are the most important reasons why Bogans should play more, not because Wesley is a bad player but because Wesley will be much more effective with limited minutes. When Wesley is fresh and healthy, he is still a very good role player on both ends of the floor. However, at the age of 36, you just can't play him 35 minutes a night against younger and bigger opponents without completely burning him out. This is especially true right now as Wesley has been playing with an injury for the last couple of weeks.
Not a bad idea. At some point the playoffs will either be in reach or out of reach, and if they are out of reach you would think the young guys will get some PT. With Wesley probably gone, or relegated to the bench next year, time to find out if Bogans is a main piece of the puzzle. I like his energy and his take it to the rim aggression. DD
Give Lampe 4 minutes each half at the 3 replacing Tmac and see what he can do. If he really hoses the 1st half then don't play him again until a game with garbage time at the end. If he can do anything then he adds some length to the team. Dwes and Tmac are both hurting and Lampe is I would imagine one of those guys Gundy says is an NBA player - they are all supposed to be talented and ready to go - so let Lampe suck it up and prove it for 4 minutes. He can't shoot any worse than the other guards/3's we've had on the floor lately, including a hurting Tmac. Well maybe he can but let's find out.
When we cac only afford to loose 6 games the rest of the season, JVG doesn't have time to experiment. Even 4 minutes can change the tide of a game.
Wesley is our starter, at least for this year. But if I were Van Gundy, Wesley and Howard would be the 2 players I would have a quick hook for if their jump shots aren't falling. Take the first game with Phoenix where we got blowed out the building. In the first 5 minutes both of those guys clanged about 3 jumpers a piece. They should have been yanked in favor of Stro and Bogans and we should have pushed all our offense towards the basket, with the penetration and dishes to Yao and Stro underneath. Wesley is a great player who is either very hot or ice cold, very streaky. Ride the streaks and when he is cold get him out of there.
i agree that wesley should be startin.. but it just seems like he couldnt defend against taller players (look at how kobe abused him)... so i think for certain defensive matchup it is a good idea to play bogan ahead of wesley... ps bogans is one helluva defender... and if he can sink the open jump shot he'll be the one taking over wesley's starting job next yr.
