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Time to go Cuttino

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by TedRuxpin, May 2, 2002.

  1. TedRuxpin

    TedRuxpin Member

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    I believe it is time for Cuttino to move on. I find him to be highly overrated. He doesn't play D; he doesn't hit clutch shots. So what if he is Stevie's buddy?
    The only break is..we don't spend that much money on him. Why not trade him while he still has some upside so to stay?
     
  2. cometsluv4play

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    i disagree completely. he improved his overall game last year...most importantly his defense. ok,....he's not the defender of the year i'll give you that, but he has shown improvement therefore he still has potiential to go beyond that.

    i would consede that he should not get to start because he's Steve's buddy....but he could still be the sixth man and i would not cry about it. he might.....but i wouldn't.
     
  3. TedRuxpin

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    Yes, I agree his is more explosive as the sixth man. However, it seems to me his late game decision skills (shooting one handers while leaning back) are not where they should be for a third year player. He's a little too erratic.
     
  4. Roc Paint

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    Well, which is it ? Does he suck, or does he have upside. Your thread is inconsistant, and I think your assumption of the Cat is way off. Mobley stays!
     
  5. Puedlfor

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    We should trade Cuttino, after all players who score 20-25 ppg are easy to locate, and when you throw in that he's seriously underpaid - why, those guards are a dime a dozen.

    He's a starter, and a damn good one at that, and we don't have anyone to replace him, it would be folly to trade him.
     
  6. Hydra

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    He's crap. We would just have to take back worse players for salary matching purposes. Let's just cut him.:rolleyes:
     
  7. don grahamleone

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    I cannot believe I just read all that. I don't think I need to say any more than that.

    I love Cuttino and he loves playing for us, but I don't even think that cuts into my assessment of him. He's a quality NBA shooting guard.
     
  8. DearRock

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    Ted, absolute nonsense!:mad:
     
  9. man532

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    Ted, I have to disagree. Mobley is not overpaid the boy can flat out score on anybody. Players are afraid to get close to him becasue he will blow right by them. There are maybe 4 shooting guards I would trade for Mobley, Iverson, Kobe, Finley, or Ray Allen.

    He can improve his assist numbers. Players are sometimes wide open for easy looks. However, I feel that this is a strategy issue, it appears that Rudy encourages one-on-one play. Everyone on the team does it.
     
  10. Pat

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    Last year I was very anti Mobley. Yes he was scoring 20 points, but his poor shot selection led to opponent rebounds and fast breaks, giving back about half of his points. This year his shot selection is much improved, and I think it is appropriate that I eat a little crow.

    However, Mobley, so far is basically a one dimensional player. OK maybe a bit harsh, perhaps a limited dimensional playere. I think most professional level players, given hte amount of plays and time Mobley gets could do close to as well.

    In the things that show statistically, he does pretty well. Points steals and even a few rebounds. I think he hurts us in passing, shot selection, defense, defensive rotations, leadership, pick setting, decision making and such. Certainly he gets hot, but he also dissapears for stretches. The Rockets problem does not appear to be comming back, it seems to be staying out of the hole in the first place. I think Mobley is one of the reasons we get in the hole. If he is not scoring, he is hurting us.

    I would really like to see a plus/minus statistic on Mobes, as well as the rest of the Rox. Does anybody keep this, or know where to find it. I suspect it was horrible last year, and I suspect pretty close to the NBA average, or just below this year.

    I like him as a sixth man. I like him as a set shooter, with the ability to drive, thus keeping the defender honest. I see him as a valuable member of an eight or nine man rotation. But I hate to see him on hte floor for so long.

    VesceySux recommended a Mobley/Thomas trade. That has some teeth to it and could draw a significant player. Most of our trade scenarios include KT as our most tradeable commodity, but I think Mobley is. I am not trying to get rid of him, but I would listen to offers.
     
  11. sjackson0

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    Everyone ignore Teddyboy!! The Cat is a steal and has steadly improved his game. He is more than Steve's Buddy!, he's a legit starting shooting guard in the NBA. He's shooting has improved so much this past season and grant it, his defend isn't the best, but it's tolerable. Get real!!! Rudy loves him and will not trade him unless Les absolutely demanded it. And that won't happen teddy
     
  12. sjackson0

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    Everyone ignore Teddyboy!! The Cat is a steal and has steadly improved his game. He is more than Steve's Buddy!, he's a legit starting shooting guard in the NBA. His shooting has improved so much this past season and grant it, his "D" isn't the best, but it's tolerable. Get real!!! Rudy loves him and will not trade him unless Les absolutely demanded it. And that won't happen teddy"D" His

    My corrections
     
  13. HOOP-T

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    TedRuxpin is highly overrated, and never starts clutch posts.

    CUT HIM.:p
     
  14. Howyalikemenow

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    Are you crazy? No way, should you trade Mobley.

    Wally: 18.6 ppg 4.7 rpg 3 ast. 0.8 stl.
    Mobley: 21.7 4.1 rpg 2.5 ast. 1.4 stl.

    Here's a good comparison to someone who's suppose to be top 50 players of the NBA this year (wally). I'd take Mobley over Wally any day of the week.

    Mobley Rocks and than some. I couldn't imagine how horrible our scoring would be without his "shooting lights out" nights.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    Mobley is getting better, all we need is for him to get smarter and we have an all star player.

    Why trade a guy just when he is coming of age?

    Now as for Francis......

    DaDakota
     
  16. JayZ750

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    You can edit your posts. Just in case you didn't know!
     
  17. dave feitl

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    OH if Mobely was overpaid you'd all want to get rid of him!
     
  18. JayZ750

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    So. That makes perfect sense to me.
     
  19. Live

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    Anybody played All-Star Baseball for PS2?

    I've read that its the best baseball game on the market right now.
     
  20. JuanValdez

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    Though I've never disliked Mobley, I was a bit leery last offseason, despite his signing a lowball contract. Given that so much of his worth is based on his ability to score in isolation, I thought his effectiveness would drop off with the anti-Mobley rule (zone defenses).

    Instead, his PPG, FG%, 3P%, FT%, steals, and assists have all gone up.

    Unfortunately, his free throw attempts (and thus his points per attempt) have gone down, probably due to the new defense rules.

    However, despite rules that were designed specifically to make Mobley's sort of game ineffective, he's found a way to continue to be effective and actually improve his overall game. His success in that has proven to me that Mobley's a player who will be successful his whole career.
     

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