It's time to rebuild the farm. I remember in the mid to late 90s our farm system was to be feared, and now it has fallen off dramatically. I think its time we trade our major league "talent" for some prospects. NEED TO MOVE (May yield AAA/AA prospects) -------------- D. Wheeler M. Loretta C. Burke B. Lidge L. Scott T. Miller L. Scott M. Ensberg R. White TRY TO MOVE (May yield A/AA prospects) ------------- A. Everett <--- I suggest we wait until he gets a Gold Glove, then value will skyrocket M. Lamb J. Lane PLEASE JUST RELEASE --------------------- B. Ausmus O. Palmeiro D. Borkowski PLEASE JUST RETIRE -------------------- C. Biggio B. Moehler
This is arguably the dumbest baseball post I have ever seen. Bar none. To think that Loretta and his .329 batting average and his ability to play all the infield positions would only yield AAA or AA prospects is just insane. Wheeler and Lidge have developed over the last month into a good 1-2 combo in the bullpen. These two and Rick White (ERA under 2 for White) are pitchers. You do not trade 3 components of a decent MLB bullpen for unproven prospects. Luke Scott has shown the ability to hit in the clutch and has power. The reason why you don't see clubs trading their entire roster for prospects is that it is such a r****ded move that the GM would be forcibly sterilized and then shot for being so inane.
The Astros need to NOT trade away anymore prospects because they are not that close but they also not gonna move Berkman, Lee or Oswalt. Astros should try to move pieces that clearly wont help them long term but that a desprate contender with injury problems might take a risk on with a lower level prospect.
I don't think that's insane. He's 36 and couldn't even find a starting job this year. But you think we can trade him for a quality starter or reliever in the majors?
Loretta wouldn't fetch a major league ready prospect. You could get a Luke Scott style AAAA player though.
considering how sh!tty our division is, it's too early to have the giving up talk. once you get into the playoffs even a mediocre team can win the world series. see the '06 st. louis cardinals.
Loretta = 1 year rental = not much value Wheeler = salary raise due, trade him while value up Lidge = trade when value is high again (now is the best) White = see Loretta
We could debate these particular moves (which I still doubt the thought behind them). But you listed 17 players out of a 25 man roster as a trade or release. Loretta was a starter in the all star game last season. He is batting .329 this season (hence, more playing time). Lamb is also batting over .300 (hence, more playing time). White has an ERA just over 1. I can see trading Everett, Ensberg, Lane, and Lidge for whatever you can get for them. But geez...you listed 68% of the roster. Simply unrealistic.
A) This team isn't that good, so 68% is generous. B) It's been done before (Marlins) C) I suggested the Astros revamp their roster using that criteria, not literally every single player listed.
The Marlins traded a few key components. They did not trade away 68% of the roster. Nobody has traded away 68% of the roster. It's just nuts.
The Marlins were lucky not good. Even if you assume they have amazing talent evaluators, this is something the Astros definately do NOT have. What's makes you think we can duplicate this?
ask moehler to retire? how about just kicking him out of minute maid park. no need to prolong the process with retirement formalities.
Just heard Pupura say on Ch.13 that the Astros are looking for trades and the minor league system for help. He said there they were looking at Danny Klassen but he tore up his knee yesterday and is out for at least a month.
I'm not sure why they'd be looking at Klassen. He's a 30-something career minor leaguer. Unless they're trading Ensberg, there is no reason for Klassen. If they're going to bring anyone up, bring up Mark Saccomanno. He's having a pretty good season. Granted, he plays 1B & 3B, but might make a nice bat off the bench. Maybe give Munson another shot. He's been playing well. Stephen Randolph and his left handed, power throwing, 2.42 era (with 33 k/4 bb in 22.1 innings) deserves another shot, too. As for the point of this thread, it could be the worst idea I've ever seen. What's that infamous quote about tanking the season?
I dont know why I believe this, but I am convinced that the Astros will get it together and make a run. They always do. I know last year was helped by the Cards almost complete collapse, but for some reason they always get back in contention. It is Purpura to get something done. This year will be a referendum (sp?) on his tenure so far. Hunsicker made his share of mistakes, but he always was ahead of the curve on getting deals blockbuster or small done. We just havent seen it yet from Purpura. He has made one deal- the Huff deal. That didnt help or hurt. So lets get something done to put the Astros over the hump when they eventually get back in it.
The team's starting rotation has been a pleasant surprise, and that's without the number #2 starter whose soon to return. The bullpen has shaped up nicely. In a weak division and a team hovering at .500 it's very concievable that a few trades to bolster the offense could improve them enough to give them a shot at the division; hell they already have a shot as is. They don't need to rebuild so much as they just need to turn the page. It's time for the aging vets to call it a day (Biggio, Ausmus, Palmeiro); past time for the club to call it quits on Lane and (probably) Ensberg. Time to see some fresh faces...Pence was a start.
