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Time: Bush Opens Double-Digit Lead

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  1. MadMax

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    http://www.time.com/time/press_releases/article/0,8599,692562,00.html
    For better or for worse...I think this thing may be turning big time.

    Campaign 2004: Bush Opens Double-Digit Lead
    TIME Poll: Among likely voters, 52% would vote for President George Bush, while 41% would vote for John Kerry and 3% would vote for Ralph Nader

    Friday, Sep. 03, 2004
    New York: For the first time since the Presidential race became a two person contest last spring, there is a clear leader, the latest TIME poll shows. If the 2004 election for President were held today, 52% of likely voters surveyed would vote for President George W. Bush, 41% would vote for Democratic nominee John Kerry, and 3% would vote for Ralph Nader, according to a new TIME poll conducted from Aug. 31 to Sept. 2. Poll results are available on TIME.com and will appear in the upcoming issue of TIME magazine, on newsstands Monday, Sept. 6.

    Most important issues: When asked what they consider are the most important issues, 25% of registered voters cited the economy as the top issue, followed by 24% who cited the war on terrorism as the top issue. The situation in Iraq was rated the top issue by 17% of registered voters, moral values issues such as gay marriage and abortion were the top issue for 16% of respondents, and health care was the most important issue for 11% of respondents.

    Bush vs. Kerry:
    The economy: 47% trust President Bush more to handle the economy, while 45% trust Kerry.
    Health care: 48% trust Senator Kerry to handle health care issues, while 42% trust Bush.
    Iraq: 53% trust Bush to handle the situation in Iraq, while 41% trust Kerry.
    Terrorism: 57% trust Bush to handle the war on terrorism, while 36% trust Kerry.
    Understanding the needs of people: 47% said they trust Kerry to understand the needs of people like themselves, while 44% trusted Bush to understand their needs.
    Providing strong leadership: 56% said they trust Bush to provide strong leadership in difficult times, while 37% said they trust Kerry to provide leadership in difficult times.
    Tax policy: 49% trust Bush to handle tax policy, while 40% trust Kerry.
    Commanding the Armed Forces: 54% said they trust Bush to be commander-in-chief of the armed forces, while 39% said they trust Kerry.

    Bush on the Issues:
    Iraq: Half (50%) of those surveyed approve of the way President Bush is handling the situation in Iraq, while 46% disapprove. In last week’s TIME poll, 48% approved of the way Bush was handling the situation in Iraq and 48% disapproved.
    Terrorism: Almost two thirds (59%) said they approve of how President Bush is handling the war on terrorism, while 38% disapprove. Last week’s TIME poll found 55% approved of Bush’s handling of the war on terrorism, while 40% disapproved.
    The Economy: Survey respondents were split on the President’s handling of the economy. Almost half (48%) said the approved of Bush’s handling of the economy, while 48% said the disapproved.

    Other results include:
    Was U.S. Right Going to War with Iraq? Over half of those surveyed (52%) think the U.S. was right in going to war with Iraq, while 41% think the U.S. was wrong to go to war.

    Have the United States’ actions in Iraq made the world safer? Almost half (45%) think the United States’ actions in Iraq have made the world safer, while 45% think the world is more dangerous. In a similar TIME poll taken Aug. 3 – 5, over half (52%) said the world was more dangerous, and 38% said the world was safer.

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    Methodology: The TIME Poll was conducted August 31 – September 2 by telephone among a random sample of 1,316 adults, including 1,128 reported registered voters and 926 likely voters. The margin of error for registered voters is +/- 3% points, and +/- 4% points for likely voters. Schulman, Ronca, & Bucuvalas (SRBI) Public Affairs conducted the poll, and more complete results are attached.
     
  2. giddyup

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    For better.

    :)
     
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    Wow! I was expecting a jump but not to this extent.

    Of course, polls don't really mean much until November, but....wow.
     
  5. Troy McClure

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    $10.00 says the Time poll is waaay off compared to other polls that will come out after labor day?

    Any takers ?

    [​IMG]
     
  6. glynch

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    Sadly there could eventually be a tipping point toward a possible fascism if the GOP politics of screwing the middle class keep going. I know many of you believe upply side propaganda, fundie econ 101, outsourcing, the wedge issues of guns, god, gays and flag waving that fool a lot of the middle and lower class. Nonetheless there is real pain and anxiety as the middle loses insurance, has their kids go to underfunded jr. college, assume big loans etc.

    As we have seen in such countries such as Germany and Argentina and other countries, when the middle class gets too hard to maintain, people react with more extremism in religion and politics.

    At the minimum we will soon see real class warfare instead of just the upper class taking it to everyone else. Religious fundamentalism has of course been gaining year by year in the US and the Radical Right has been gaining momentum.

    To the GOP backers I say what was so bad about a moderate middle class country?
     
  7. ron413

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    In which direction???
     
  8. Troy McClure

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    :rolleyes:
     
  9. ron413

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    Exactly.
     
  10. Troy McClure

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    I know.
     
  11. glynch

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    Despite the Time poll, this is far from over. It depends on turnout. Also I have seen at least one story that says that the god, guns, gays and Swift boat hater routine has mainly gotten the yahoos in the Southern States lathered up to switch to Bush. These are already Bush states.

    Kerry, still has a decent chance in the electoral college. It would be funny if the Supreme Court has to undo the last decision to select Bush again.
     
  12. HayesStreet

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    I think its people with your views, glynch, that push real moderates to the right. Now you not only hate america but you're going to get bush reelected.
     
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    Have a good weekend, glynch! :)
     
  14. Chump

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    yeah Time is the only poll showing anything even close to big lead for Bush, just about every other poll Ive seen still have the candidates within the margin of error to each other..
     
  15. glynch

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    Hayes, you seem like a good guy genuinely concerned about terrorism as all of us are. Sadly your paranoid foreign policies may eventually lead to suicide bombers on Houston buses and nukes in many unstable third world countries.

    It is sort of like the drug war, nobody likes drug abuse, but scared confused thinking and the "drug war" just adds to the problem.
     
  16. MR. MEOWGI

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    Man, I'm not really bigtime into politics but this administration really just creeps me out. I don't think I could take four more years of it. :(
     
  17. gwayneco

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    One thing to keep in mind is the "likely" voters v. registered voters. The latter will give Kerry a bit of boost.

    Now, sorry, but I can't resist this from Power Line
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    Dems Turn Violent

    The Democrats protesting in New York were rude but, thankfully, not violent. (For that, we can thank the NYPD. When I find time I want to comment on them further.) Unfortunately, the campaign appears to have turned violent in West Virginia:

    A shot apparently was fired at the Republican Party headquarters in downtown Huntington while President Bush's speech accepting the GOP nomination for president was being televised.
    No one was hurt in the 10:30 p.m. Thursday incident.

    "We heard a pop. We realized it was a gunshot and we were kind of scared," said Gayle Adkins, a volunteer of Huntington.

    Others said they didn't see anything except for some of the banners jumping as the bullet whizzed over their heads. Police could not locate where the bullet landed.

    "It is pretty ridiculous someone would do this at a gathering that doesn't hurt anybody," said volunteer Amanda Beach of Huntington.

    The shooting won't intimidate them, many said. "It has made us want to work harder," said Brendon Childers of Huntington.


    I can't help noting one small irony: this account in the Charleston newspaper says that "no one was hurt" in the shooting incident. But it also reports that "[a] piece of the broken glass nicked [volunteer Gayle] Adkins' neck. That may not count as being hurt, but it was good enough for two of John Kerry's purple hearts. Adkins didn't fire the gun, either.

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  18. HayesStreet

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    Did you get your threads confused? I'm not sure any of this makes sense - except for the part about me being a good guy of course (thanks for that, btw).

    When the ultra left condecendingly assumes the middle class are 'fooled' (rather than rationally not having ultra left worldviews) they inevitably push moderates to the right and away from the democratic party. Ah, the irony.
     
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    Are you saying straight up? If you are, I'll put $100 that says Bush beats Kerry. For two to one odds, let me know.
     
  20. glynch

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    Hayes, when the wealthy and the powerful take it to the defenseless whether at home or abroad it has repercussions (blowback). Pointing this out is not what causes the problems.

    Enthusiatically backing the line that we are in "inevitable" imminent danger and lauding the invasion of Iraq is the type of thing that helps Bush types get elected.
     

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